I believe I read a while ago that beehaw defederated from lemmy.world. I'm new to the fediverse, so I'm still trying to understand exactly what that means. Is it still possible to subscribe to a lemmy.world community from my beehaw account? There are a couple of iOS Lemmy apps that have their official community on lemmy.world, and I'd really like to be able to subscribe to them.

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[–] chiz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this saying Beehaw is lacking those tools, or the other instances are? Who needs to be making updates/changes to be brought back into the fold?

[–] jarfil 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works tried to grow their userbases as fast as possible, so they let free account creation without any screening and minimal moderation. That attracted a lot of people, but also a lot of bad actors, who then went on to use federation to cause trouble on other instances, particularly the ones they felt federation allowed them to "sneak into", bypassing whatever rules.

Beehaw's "rules" are more of an ideology than a strict set of rules, which needs more work from mods to apply. At the time it didn't have (likely still doesn't have) the mod staff needed to deal with that onslaught, so the only mod tool left, was to cut off those instances entirely. At least until they are willing to, and capable of, putting some order among their users.

Lemmy doesn't even have a way of reporting users to their source instance (a feature that would pose its own set of challenges), so they can pass as model citizens on their home instance, while wreaking havok everywhere else.

[–] UrLogicFails 4 points 1 year ago

My understanding is the lack of tools are systemic to Lemmy as a whole (and would apply to all instances).

I remember when the defederation happened, the admins suggested users could help the Lemmy GitHub to help develop the mod tools if they wanted to help rectify the situation, but the admins may have changed their stance since then.

Personally, from what I've heard about the Lemmy code, I don't think modding tools are a high priority to the Devs; so if you really want to see Lemmy.world content, I'd recommend making a second account and combining your feeds using Lift-off.