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[–] FlowVoid@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And if you change it to "Delhi rebels threaten to detonate nuke in Delhi, Modi responds by dropping cluster munitions on rebels" then it's not so clear any more.

Ukrainian civilians are at risk no matter what happens. The ones who are ultimately responsible for deciding the fate of Ukrainians are Ukrainians themselves.

You may think you see a better option, but they don't have to agree with you.

[–] alyaza 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You may think you see a better option, but they don’t have to agree with you.

nobody is saying they do; they will do as they will. but what they do isn't correct; it isn't correct because they do it and are the good guys; and people can be correct to oppose them for doing bad things―which i think this is―because doing a bad thing isn't mutually exclusive of being on the good side.

[–] FlowVoid@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

In this situation don't think it makes sense to oppose cluster munitions simply on principle.

I think it would be correct to oppose them only if using cluster bombs would cause more harm to Ukrainian civilians than the alternatives. I assume Ukrainian leaders would use similar criteria.

And since Ukrainians are actually at the front lines, they are the best informed and will suffer the most from an error of judgment. Under those circumstances, I am comfortable with trusting them to make the best decision either way.