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I don't have much of a problem either way as I don't think I'll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That's fine. There's clearly a more liberal audience here and that's okay. I just don't want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.

Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I'm new here.

Edit: Thanks for the rational replies. I was expecting to get lit up for even mentioning this topic lol.

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[–] nicholas 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yes, they are completely unwelcome. Anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders is immediately labeled a “fascist” as as justification to dunk on them. Doesn’t matter how civil or well-argued their opinions are. Don’t believe me? Just wait a few hours and then look at the responses to this comment.

If you care AT ALL about fairness and balance of opinions, then this is absolutely not the instance for you.

[–] SemioticStandard 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey man, you're not arguing in good faith, and I think you know it. We're building a different space here than the one we left. Please stop trying to ragebait by building straw man arguments that don't reflect the reality of the discourse here. Choose to be better.

[–] nicholas 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How am I ragebaiting? Am I wrong? It’s been made clear time and time again that any opinion that is even somewhat right leaning is not welcome here. To point this out is not “ragebaiting” and that’s completely absurd that you would even claim that.

Yet again, y’all prove my point. Anyone who disagrees with the hivemind is apparently not here in good faith (even when they are).

[–] Velociraptor 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s been made clear time and time again

Please cite examples. This entire post is disproving this already.

To point this out is not “ragebaiting” and that’s completely absurd that you would even claim that.

It's absurd to come in here, throw around vague accusations, and then do absolutely no work to back up those claims.

the hivemind

There are already more viewpoints being expressed within respondents to this post than in typical reddit front page subs. I'm sorry but it is not good faith to start name calling. I feel like you know that, though.

Edit: I also want to add that places like Reddit and Twitter did a lot of damage to responsible discourse. It popularized low effort shitslinging and ran down most effort posters until they had no drive to even bother anymore. If you disagree with what's being said in here, please help bring back intellectualism in divisive debate.

[–] JuBe 9 points 1 year ago

You shot out of the gates with an absolutist position. That’s one reason why it sounds like you’re rage-baiting.

[–] Velociraptor 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused as to why you'd post such a reddit-esque bait statement when so many of the responses are civil, patient, and respectfully explaining viewpoints without attacking OP. Don't you think discourse can be better than that? Don't you want to at least give it a chance?

[–] DeimosE2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you guys. I'm surprised my post pulled this much traction and I'm happy to see here that people are more willing to argue in good faith. I don't even entirely agree with conservative politics I have a bit of both sides really. I just wanted to start a discussion since we're still in our early days here. This is like the other comment I've replied to.

[–] Gaywallet 26 points 1 year ago

If you care AT ALL about fairness and balance of opinions, then this is absolutely not the instance for you.

If this is how you feel, why are you here? Users on our instance who are actively attempting to sabotage the instance rather than engage in discussion are not helpful. Coming out from a 20 day hiatus to only share a negative opinion is relatively harmless as a single action, but imagine if there were a bunch of people like you on this instance - it would make this place extremely negative and result in a lot of comments which served no purpose but to upset others.