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Wildebeest - A cloudflare based Fediverse server (github.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/3045

Now this is interesting. A Fediverse platform developed by Cloudflare that inherently runs on Cloudflare without needing dedicated infrastructure.

The code is open source yet the platform itself is inherently proprietary. It's going to be very interesting how this unfolds given how unpopular Cloudflare is with many Fediverse admins

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[–] raucao@kosmos.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@anova Why would you ban yourself from interacting with someone who voluntarily chooses provider X or Y or Z for anything? That's their choice, not yours.

Half the fediverse already runs on servers provided by only 3 companies. If anything, adding more to the mix, both implementations and hosting providers, is healthy for a decentralized ecosystem.

[–] anova 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why would you ban yourself from interacting with someone who voluntarily chooses provider X or Y or Z for anything?

Because I'm petty

Half the fediverse already runs on servers provided by only 3 companies

I also don't know those three companies off the top of my head, and while I definitely believe you, I can't imagine they are anywhere near as big as Cloudflare. If you're talking about cloud service providers, I'd also consider running an instance that ignores say, AWS instances, but I think that's a bit different since they don't specifically provide "activitypub" services afaik. With Cloudflare, it's much more explicit

[–] raucao@kosmos.social 1 points 2 years ago

@anova Same. If Amazon created their own ActivityPub implementation, that would be yet another one that has to interop with all the other implementations, thus creating a healthier, more diverse ecosystem. Now people are mostly just running Mastodon on AWS.

The Cloudflare move is important not because of their infra, but because it's a new server implementation, which can only run on Cloudflare, thus always having to interop with other implementations (except for insular, corporate use cases).

[–] autumn 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is it really half? and which three companies?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Likely Hetzner, Netcup and OVH. Large relatively cheap VPS providers in Europe.

I remember reading an article some time ago about someone actually investigating that and there was also some large US hoster in the mix. but those few made up 80-90% of the fediverse instances.

Edit: found it: https://bitkeks.eu/blog/2020/03/underlying-problem-fediverse-decentralised-platforms.html

[–] autumn 2 points 2 years ago

ah, i misread your initial post. i thought you meant half of all users were hosted by a few instances. thanks for that article!