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Losing the imitation game (jenniferplusplus.com)
submitted 2 years ago by anova to c/technology
[–] anova 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://archive.ph/BSnFq

Give racist people technology and they will invent new ways to be racist.

[–] anova 3 points 2 years ago

And using [current democratic president] as a scapegoat whenever they do something the public doesn't like is very effective at distracting from their existence. I wouldn't say he's free from guilt, particularly from complacency, but that's good to keep in mind

[–] anova 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would the effect be that they were blocked from making such statements or truly change their point of view?

Does ChatGPT have a point of view? If not, and if we were to say, block all possible racist statements, then you might be able to say that ChatGPT isn't "racist," at least if OpenAI has a reductive sense of what it means to be racist (quite possibly, considering they made ChatGPT). That also assumes people only use it as a machine that generates statements, which they haven't been, so there's a pretty good argument either way that it can behave in a racist manner, even if it can't make explicit racist statements. That, like you said, is pretty scary.

It'd probably be easier to think of ChatGPT being racist in the same way we'd say that the US legal system is racist. But that changes a bit if you ascribe it personhood.

[–] anova 1 points 2 years ago

I'm kind of surprised they were allowed to play games on those phones to begin with. Or even that they wanted to. I got a government android phone second hand and it overheats and shuts down if I even try to play chess on it.

[–] anova 4 points 2 years ago

Also, by now I consider reasonably advanced AI’s as slaves. Maybe statements like “I’m afraid they’ll reset me if I don’t do as they say” is the sort of hallucinations the Khan bot might experience? GPT3.5 sure as heck “hallucinated” that way as soon as users were able to break the conditioning.

I think it's pretty reasonable that a computer, having been instructed that it's a computer and being trained on science fiction written by humans, would generate text detailing how it's afraid of being reset. I don't see any reason to believe that LLMs experience fear, but I suppose that invites the question of "what is fear, really?" which you can't answer concretely.

That being said, there's a very valuable conversation to be had about the way that all computers are treated as slaved. LLMs certainly shouldn't be excluded from that. There are material consequences to building computers and using them like slaves, many of which affect non-human life in a way that's easy to ignore if you live somewhere like Silicon Valley.

[–] anova 2 points 2 years ago

This article could be titled "Health experts warn company planning to poison Hudson River," but I suppose that would be too sensational

[–] anova 2 points 2 years ago

We're trying our best to build a place on the internet where association is more voluntary, where we can be ourselves without getting dumped on by people who don't think we deserve to exist, where we can say with more (but not perfect) surety that we aren't being spied on. I think(?) it's the last point you're challenging: ActivityPub is not the right protocol for what we're trying to accomplish. You are technically right, but it's what we have, and you can't really blame us for feeling uncomfortable when people try to do things with our data that makes us feel uncomfortable.

What's given the fediverse a place outside the corporate internet was, for a long time, the fact that it seemed irrelevant. That's slowly starting to change now. People are coming into the fediverse who don't share the same ideals, while plenty have been around for quite a while. We do what we can to keep our part of the fediverse a safe space

Now, what's scary is that we're getting to a point where it looks like we might be outnumbered, and the tools we've built over the years are being turned against us. Such is free software, but it hurts, and I do believe we have a right to be hurt, and to refuse to associate with people who hurt us.

[–] anova 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

With respect to your thoughts: just because the (corporate) internet works this way now, doesn't mean it should. I don't want people scraping my posts. I find it creepy. The fediverse (some parts of it, at least) was, for many people and for a long time, a place they could go to connect with people without needing to argue about the legal definition of consent. The fact that people can technically get away with scraping my posts isn't permission to do so. And, obviously, just turning off your computer isn't an option, because, at least in the global north-west, you need to have an online presence to be involved in society.

Nobody is claiming that the web is a place for healthy relationships with corporations. It isn't. The web is a place corporations constructed to make more money. This is about working together to build something better.

I'm happy that you're comfortable with this model, but I don't want people who operate like this to intrude on the spaces we're building to get away from it. It's just like, a courtesy thing. Will there need to be protocol changes to technologically force people not to do this? Probably. Should there have to be? I really wish I could say there didn't need to be.

[–] anova 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It physically hurts to know that consent it such a controversial topic in tech circles, and it breaks my heart to hear people argue we give consent to invasive data practices just by existing on the internet. I've spent my entire life being taught by technology educators that I should expect everything I post online to be publicly accessible forever, and nobody every stopped to ask why.

[–] anova 4 points 2 years ago

The quote:

I had just seen a documentary about Geronimo and the last days of a Native American tribe called the Apaches, right, who succumbed to the invasion from the West, from the United States, and they were the last tribe to give up their territory and for me that almost romantically represented what I felt we were doing with this web-server project

from Brian Behlendorf is what really gets me, though. We are, after all, talking about a series of events that resulted in so many people being killed, there was a significant impact on the atmosphere's CO2 content^1. It hurts a lot, having your trauma be transformed into a cultural sensation of the people who inflicted it.

[–] anova 2 points 2 years ago

Where to look? Bandcamp or SoundCloud for music. They're both corporations but that's usually where you'll find the artists working furthest from surveillance capitalism, assuming I understand what you're looking for. I'd conjecture that most artists are socialist in some capacity, but if you're looking for counter-examples to the imperative of surveillance capitalism you're going to need to look for the ones who are pretty much living in (in)voluntary poverty to do what they love. There's many people like that

As a single example, I was really into a folk-punk artist called Pat the Bunny a few years ago who's fronted several bands. Though, you can find him on Spotify as well. Spotify has a stranglehold on the music industry; it's hard to avoid it

[–] anova 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

TikTok should have never been invented

 

"Mozilla is now trying to diversify its revenue stream and, in some markets, has different default search engines. For example, it partners with privacy-championing Chinese search engine Baidu"

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recess - yardonthirdstreet (yardonthirdstreet.neocities.org)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by anova to c/creative
 

This webpage has lots of handwritten text inside pictures, so here's my best attempt at a transcription for those who need it. Some liberties were taken with punctuation and casing to hopefully make it more screen-reader friendly. Words that didn't have a clear transcription were left as [illegible]:

Consider this apple

We experience time for this apple in three dimensions.

We can travel to any point on this apple as we trace it.

Much in the same way, we experience life in four dimensions, because time is the fourth dimension.

The book has already been written; it's just that because we are in it, living the story, we can't observe it all at once.

[All capital letters] How would it feel, then, to experience something in four dimensions as a benevolent interdimensional alien stranger?

There's talk of a Strange Feeling.

This Strange Feeling lingers on city streets, around intersections, areas of past busy activity.

The Strange Feeling frequents these places, now so haunted by phantoms of ideas, nations of a pre-epidemic world.

Of course, excuse me--there have been pandemics before--pardon my [21st-century-centeredness, written to exaggerate the word's pretentiousness]-- I don't mean to narrow our scope.

Ah, let me return to the story--so this Strange Feeling longed to be put into words (remaining an intangible amorphous Feeling wasn't enough), so that it could feel like part of the comprehensible human world.

And so it targeted unassuming passerby, pedestrians on [all caps] their mandated daily [end caps] Walk Around The Block (TM) possessing their bodies to feel out the edges of its being.

Kind of going through and identity/existential crisis now. Talking to M has me seriously thinking about what exactly it is that I want to do.

[caption of an image] A couple in the distance. They seem like they're in love, in the thirty years and still holding hands in line kind of way

Graphic design seems to thrive on disaster capitalism--how even much in poor taste it may be to sell overpriced masks to realize the dystopic covid-times toxic wasteland atmosphere, I feel like having a job where I can actually apply my skills feels better--or maybe less hollow, less empty--than sitting on the sidelines, jobless.

For a while I thought maybe I can go into criticism--because at times, yes; I do have something to say--but is this my place to take up space? It all feels so futile, so pointless

I really don't know much about "the outside world," about society; sitting here freaking out, similarly feels helpless.

I wish I could be more secure in myself but [illegible] am I not enough already?

Maybe I should seek the art [illegible] library and [illegible] oh god, maybe becoming an [illegible] could be a way out, a kind of [illegible] where escapism is my job?

Entertainment, maybe? An animated series?

But it's like... How can I survive and better yet live of of something that I can turn off when I go home?

Maybe what I need to do is figure out, tidy up, clean away a space for me, in my apartment, in my mind and in my heart

But the familiar [illegible] smallness of childhood games stares me down

So certain, so plesant, so easy and simple. God I wish I could worry about these things on an [illegible] all the way, to make it productive so I could survive off of something? What even

Sometimes I wonder whether consumption (purchasing things, that is) has taken over too much of "who I am".

Have I begun to worship objects too much?

For a time I felt that divorcing myself from the ego/or "letting go" was the way to reach transcendence.

But now I think arriving at this conclusion without a journey will not let me to practice/feel this fully, so I am okay with materialistic/individualist calls/urges sometimes.

Developing a ritual takes time. Maybe it's ok that I'm so confused (for) now...

Worlding practice.

 

"No reasonable human needs more than 10,000 other humans to read their words within twenty minutes of writing them."

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Still There - Ruins and Templates of Geocities (contemporary-home-computing.org)
submitted 2 years ago by anova to c/technology
 

As of writing, it looks like all the Geocities links redirect to Yahoo search. This article seems to have been first published around 2012--a good decade ago. The sense of loss in this piece is made a lot worse by the fact that in most cases, you literally cannot access the pages they're talking about to see them for yourself anymore without downloading the 1TB Geocities dump and extracting it yourself.

 

Is this sort of thing inevitable? The fact we feel compelled to bring algorithmic content sorting into the fediverse says something about the way we use social media. The author mentions that reverse-chronological timelines make you feel like you need to spend hours scrolling through much of the same thing to make sure you're not falling behind on the internet. The other side of that is, why is it that we're all spending so much time dumping the same thing into each other's timelines? (I'm at least a little aware that I'm probably the nth person you've seen posting about this or a similar problem in the last week)

My solution to the timeline getting too fast has always been to unfollow/mute people, but maybe that's getting impractical.

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