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Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

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[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The best news in the last three years! :)

I just hope that he will follow through with quickly finishing the war in Ukraine.

[–] Strocker89 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia and letting them murder Zelensky.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia

Wouldn't happen, but even this is way better than giving it to Zelensky.

and letting them murder Zelensky.

No way. I mean that would be awesome of course, bringing justice to that murderer who killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, terrorizing the rest for three years and not letting people escape. But that would never happen, USA almost certainly gave Zelensky some guarantees that he will be able to escape to USA after this war ends.

[–] averyminya 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So Putin is better for Ukraine?

So Putin is better for Ukraine?

For Ukraine - I don't know what "Putin for Ukraine" means.. If Ukraine would be Putin's then it probably wouldn't be Ukraine but Russia (unless Putin would be a president of both countries or something..)? I don't think it would be good or bad, Ukraine existing or not doesn't change much IMHO, but I'm open to hearing your arguments here.

For Ukrainians - of course! The shit that Zelensky does to Ukrainians is exactly (and even worse than) what the west scares public Putin would do. Ukrainians on liberated territories(controlled by Putin) have way more freedoms than those on territories controlled by Zelensky's regime, including one of the most basic freedoms - freedom of movement and not being kidnapped on a street and be sent to die...

[–] apotheotic 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Perhaps if you're some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Perhaps if you're some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.

I am Ukrainian. I have no idea whether Slavic people are considered white or not, but I am quite sure I'd benefit from a literal war in my country ending.

[–] apotheotic 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm certain you would! What makes you think that ending Russia's horrifying invasion is more likely under a trump-ruled USA?

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What makes you think that ending Russia's horrifying invasion is more likely under a trump-ruled USA?

Because dems have been funding this war since the beginning, and would certainly continue to do so? I think Harris explicitly said that she will continue the war (or something along those lines).

Trump said that he is going to finish it by forcing both sides to negotiate. (Yes yes I know, every politician's main job is lying. But when one person says that they will definitely kill everybody I know continuing the job of their predecessor, and the second one at least promises that they will not, whatever credibility that promise has in your opinion - I'm choosing the second one)

[–] apotheotic 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean funding the arms that Ukraine is using to defend itself? Or did I miss something and america is sending aid to Russia?

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean funding the arms that Ukraine is using to defend itself?

Yes, sending weapons and money to Zelensky's regime, which lets him to continue staying in power and terorrize Ukrainians by forbidding people to leave the country and kidnapping them from the streets to send them to the meatgrinder.

[–] apotheotic 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] chahk 2 points 2 weeks ago

He will. By fucking capitulating completely, and letting Putler walk all over Europe.