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Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Democrats will learn nothing from this.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Id go so far as to say they're paid good money to explicitly not learn from this.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are learning in real time what the real function of a controlled opposition party is in a capitalist dictatorship.

As if that wasn't already known.

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

"We didn't go far enough right to win over MAGAs hearts and minds."

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 6 points 2 months ago

Well I guess the good news is that it no longer matters if they learn anything? These election results make it clear that going forward they'll have about as much effect on lawmaking as a dead hamster. It's even possible that, except for serving as a convenient cardboard bogeyman, they'll otherwise cease to exist at all.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Every time i think the US can't get any more ridiculously observationally challenged, I'm taught otherwise...

A billionaire, convicted felon, moron and over all most likely a damn pedo gets elected to be the top-clown of the clown-college.

I'm sorry for every sane murican who has to endure that. And especially for everyone that is not "normal"....

[–] apotheotic 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with your message, but please try to avoid the r-slur. Its an ableist slur and quite triggering for many people, even if you mean it innocently.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're totally right, sorry. And of course it wasn't meant in that way.

[–] apotheotic 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Appreciate you taking the feedback on board and making a change, thank you

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, but I'm sorry to have had that oversight in the spur of the moment. I used that word for 40 years without much of a thought, it just stuck.

[–] apotheotic 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get it - I'll take a person who uses it by mistake over someone who uses it on purpose despite knowing

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Agreed ☺️

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like people are just rolling over and taking it? He shouldn't even be eligible because of the 14th Amendment "no insurrection" thing.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Democrats vocally came out against getting him off the ballot for his crimes alleging 'you can only beat him at the ballot box', but it turns out they can't.

[–] Didros 1 points 2 months ago

Got a source on that? I gotta read more news it seems.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

On the plus side maybe we will start hearing about the horrors at the US Border that magically stopped in november 2020.

[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

Well, crap.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 9 points 2 months ago

The leopard ate my face are going to hit so hard all those non white and rich trump fan in the next years

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle.

-Vladimir Lenin

There is hope! It isn't easy, it isn't fun, but if we can know our circumstances, we can know our way out of them, and if we know our way out, we can get out.

  1. Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to the Workers to protect themselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it, the point is that organizing is the best thing any leftist can do.

  2. Read theory. A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds. It will help contextualize what fascism is, what causes it, and how to stop it. I can offer a good introductory reading list regarding Marxism if you'd like, but this is a good starting point.

  3. Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground.

  4. Be more industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well. Theory guides practice, which sharpens theory to be reapplied to better practice.

  5. Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. The Democrats will not save us, we must save each other.

  6. Be persistent. If you feel like a single water driplet against a mountain, think of the Grand Canyon. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't USA culture very big about "never give up"?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only if you're white. If not, do as your told or you may be assaulted, imprisoned, or shot dead. Sometimes you'll do what your told and those things will still happen.

[–] averyminya 2 points 2 months ago

And if you do make it, like the people of Tulsa did, then the racists will bomb your city.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 6 points 2 months ago

Ah, well! Nevertheless,

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 months ago

Tyranny by majority...

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The best news in the last three years! :)

I just hope that he will follow through with quickly finishing the war in Ukraine.

[–] Strocker89 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia and letting them murder Zelensky.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia

Wouldn't happen, but even this is way better than giving it to Zelensky.

and letting them murder Zelensky.

No way. I mean that would be awesome of course, bringing justice to that murderer who killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, terrorizing the rest for three years and not letting people escape. But that would never happen, USA almost certainly gave Zelensky some guarantees that he will be able to escape to USA after this war ends.

[–] averyminya 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So Putin is better for Ukraine?

So Putin is better for Ukraine?

For Ukraine - I don't know what "Putin for Ukraine" means.. If Ukraine would be Putin's then it probably wouldn't be Ukraine but Russia (unless Putin would be a president of both countries or something..)? I don't think it would be good or bad, Ukraine existing or not doesn't change much IMHO, but I'm open to hearing your arguments here.

For Ukrainians - of course! The shit that Zelensky does to Ukrainians is exactly (and even worse than) what the west scares public Putin would do. Ukrainians on liberated territories(controlled by Putin) have way more freedoms than those on territories controlled by Zelensky's regime, including one of the most basic freedoms - freedom of movement and not being kidnapped on a street and be sent to die...

[–] apotheotic 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps if you're some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps if you're some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.

I am Ukrainian. I have no idea whether Slavic people are considered white or not, but I am quite sure I'd benefit from a literal war in my country ending.

[–] apotheotic 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm certain you would! What makes you think that ending Russia's horrifying invasion is more likely under a trump-ruled USA?

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think that ending Russia's horrifying invasion is more likely under a trump-ruled USA?

Because dems have been funding this war since the beginning, and would certainly continue to do so? I think Harris explicitly said that she will continue the war (or something along those lines).

Trump said that he is going to finish it by forcing both sides to negotiate. (Yes yes I know, every politician's main job is lying. But when one person says that they will definitely kill everybody I know continuing the job of their predecessor, and the second one at least promises that they will not, whatever credibility that promise has in your opinion - I'm choosing the second one)

[–] apotheotic 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean funding the arms that Ukraine is using to defend itself? Or did I miss something and america is sending aid to Russia?

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean funding the arms that Ukraine is using to defend itself?

Yes, sending weapons and money to Zelensky's regime, which lets him to continue staying in power and terorrize Ukrainians by forbidding people to leave the country and kidnapping them from the streets to send them to the meatgrinder.

[–] apotheotic 1 points 2 months ago

Right, I see.

[–] chahk 2 points 2 months ago

He will. By fucking capitulating completely, and letting Putler walk all over Europe.