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[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

as a high schooler with a special interest in computers, it's genuinely surprising how poor most of my peers computers skills are. most of my peers don't even know the very basics of folder structures.

also unrelated, let's all love lain

[–] breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

special interest

poor skill of peers

(I'm totally with you though)

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I could swear there was a wildly similar version of this particular comic that was even more on point with reference to assembly call codes.

[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

there is, I tried to find it but I can't seem to. there's lots of versions of it for different interests, I love xkcd

[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

lol I love that xkcd, but yes it absolutely applies

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I blame google for the demise of well-organized folders. Their approach to email was "chuck it all in one big folder named Archive, and you can search for it using keywords that you will definitely remember when you need to find it again!"

It's a useful tool, but paved the way for the current state of affairs where people get overwhelmed by their email because they have 150,000 unread emails in their inbox and as a result, don't read an email until you tell them the entire contents of their email via the inferior messaging platform known as texting.

[–] averyminya 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Idk. I blame Apple, and Android hasn't done much to really bolster the need for file folders (not a bad thing, just lack of opportunity for learning).

But Apple actively prohibits its user base from engaging with folders, and has been for well over a decade - plenty long enough for my (millennial) generation to phase it out and for the generations after to never need them in the first place. Plus, emails aren't dependent on file paths, whereas systems file paths are completely necessary.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait, with no folders how does apple deal with files these days? I'm a lifelong pc person so I have no idea

[–] averyminya 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You may as well have asked this question in 2012 because it's exactly the same as it was back then, except now there is iCloud. Which in some ways is impressive.

Folders are generic labels, Photos, Documents, Downloads, and within those there is folder structure, but I've never seen any Apple user actually utilize them beyond the most basic organizational functions (and even that is not common). Granted, my demographic for the past couple years has been the elderly, but before that I worked with kids and it was basically the same.

If you use Apple products, you don't need folder structures because you can't take files off your device easily, it basically has to go through some form of cloud upload, if not iCloud then Google Drive. And you don't need folder structures for the same reason, cause why are you adding files to your device from somewhere that isn't iCloud?

This is only like 95% facetious, it's actually ridiculous how closed off Apple makes their products. By default when you make a spreadsheet with Apple's software it exports as a .pages file, instead of the actually useful .xls. This is for every. Single. Program. Word files, PowerPoint files, I'm sure there's even a PDF specific Apple file format.

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[–] Corr@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

As a user you can't access the filesystem. It's completely abstracted away. At least this was the case for the iPhone 6

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Those inbox ignorers are monsters. My inbox is my todo list and if it has a scroll bar I get anxious.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Twenty years ago when I was 13, I started doing web stuff. This was back when everything was super simple, so everything to get a webserver up was super manual. I'll mention port forwarding at my current job and there's this slice of people that are 28-40 years old that know what I'm talking about.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm slightly younger than that even, currently finishing up my master's but have been working as a backend dev for a couple of years.

I've learned an order of magnitude more about networking from just being in the vicinity of my girlfriend (who is a network technician) than from uni, and it's definitely already paying off.

[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

I love doing homelab stuff! it seems like at my school either you don't know what a port is, or you actively maintain 3 web servers (the latter being the significant minority, with a total of like 3 of us)

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

fair. Thank you for the correction ILikeBoobies

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't both Windows and MacOS call it folders, and Linux calls it directories?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Directories predate them however per Windows a directory is a type of folder that points to a location on the file system - a list of network printers are a folder but not a directory

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just watched lain some weeks ago without knowing what I have let me into 😂 got pretty confused, but I think in the end I got it. Probably..

[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

that's basically how I felt after as well, it's such a confusing but interesting series. I want to rewatch it though after really starting to grasp it, it's such intriguing show

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

When I spent a few years teaching in the local school, one thing I taught was a class on Design and 3D printing. The VERY first thing I always had to teach was "how to use a mouse" before I could even begin to start teaching CAD modeling.

I swear, smart phones and touch screens are a curse and pox on humanity.