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Is there no one in the replies here who thinks women have a legitimate discomfort, or unsafe feeling, having men around in a toilet space, even if the men aren't actively being harmful?
No women here who had difficult upbringings with men? No men whose daughter or sister or female friend feels uncomfortable letting certain barriers down around strange men?
Of course there is an important discussion about how bathroom culture changes as society's acceptance of trans people changes.
But, OP, I think what you would do best beyond what you said, is to acknowledge that some women have a legitimate concern, even if there's not an easy answer. Once you have that point of agreement - once the other person can see you care about the concern they're coming from - you have a foundation for discussing a real problem and/or solution.
Otherwise you're just buttimg heads to win, and asking an internet echo chamber to adjudicate.
So quick question: You are completely fine with a trans woman using the women's rest room right?
I'm extremely paranoid around strange men but I've seen how the whole bathroom thing has been used to torment trans people by denying them safe access to a basic bodily function. My personal feelings can take a backseat.
What about women that are uncomfortable around strange women? And men uncomfortable around strange men? Or themperors who are uncomfortable around everyone?
Seems a little, "women are weak and need to be protected" to me, no?