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Trump told donors he will crush pro-Palestinian protests, deport demonstrators - The Washington Post (Gifted article, no paywall) (wapo.st)

submitted 5 months ago by cobra89 to c/politics

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[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You're missing a lot of context. You're examining the contents of the effect, without looking at the cause.

The DNC rigged the primaries before any ballots were cast. They conspired against Bernie Sanders to have Hillary as the nominee and worked to sabotage Bernie's run for presidency. Talking about exit poll statistics doesn't really mean much. The corruption was already well underway.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

[–] godzilla_lives 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's mind-boggling to hear people cry foul about Bernie Sanders when the man himself has endorsed Biden and is actively helping him campaign.

[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's mind boggling about it? Bernie Sanders wasn't a prophet. He ran on a platform and we believed in his candidacy. Just because he bent over for Hillary doesn't mean that suddenly now she's a great candidate. If he had to bite down on the rag, I don't fault him for that. But asking people to get on board "just this once" every election is just a carrot on the stick. It's always "but this one is SUPER important, set yourself aside and pick the lesser evil, eventually we can get what we want." There is no "eventually" and there never will be as long as you and others like you show that you're willing to throw your ideals away because of this season's boogieman

[–] godzilla_lives 4 points 5 months ago

I voted for Bernie twice, in the 2016 primaries and again in the 2020 primaries. I donated a few hundred bucks as well. After he lost, I voted for the candidate he endorsed, because in my view, the candidate he endorsed would get us closer to the ideals he espoused, and certainly not the GOP. That is why it's mind-boggling.

If he had to bite down on the rag

Sexist and uncalled for. Do better.

[–] t3rmit3 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

“Wait,” I said. “That victory fund was supposed to be for whoever was the nominee, and the state party races. You’re telling me that Hillary has been controlling it since before she got the nomination?”

Gary said the campaign had to do it or the party would collapse.

“That was the deal that Robby struck with Debbie,” he explained, referring to campaign manager Robby Mook. “It was to sustain the DNC. We sent the party nearly $20 million from September until the convention, and more to prepare for the election.”

Holy shit.

Bernie took this stoically. He did not yell or express outrage. Instead he asked me what I thought Hillary’s chances were. The polls were unanimous in her winning but what, he wanted to know, was my own assessment?

I had to be frank with him. I did not trust the polls, I said. I told him I had visited states around the country and I found a lack of enthusiasm for her everywhere. I was concerned about the Obama coalition and about millennials.

Even the then-head of the DNC knew she was going to lose. It was too late to do anything at that point, but people are over here blaming Bernie and young voters for 2016, when Donna Brazile knew Hillary was going to lose the election, and Hillary had completely controlled the DNC to shut Bernie out.

[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

Yup. The corruption is blatant, and the worst part is, they don't even hide it... the threat of impending doom keeps the voters subservient. Instead of pointing out the corruption, we equivocate. I'm not a nihilist or a pessimist and most certainly do not want Trump to win. But refusing to acknowledge the blatant corruption puts us right where we started.

Props to you for actually reading the article. If anyone else who replied to the comment had done the same, there wouldn't be as many "what-about-isms"