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The American government has the ability to address both. It's not like money is being taken away from social programs to fund the defense of Ukraine. It's not like much money is involved in the defense of Ukraine to being with: The vast majority of weapons the Eastern European nation is receiving are old, even expired stock that would have otherwise been destroyed.
The issue is that while monetary capital exists to fix e.g. housing, political capital does not. Part of it is intentional - like all democracies, American democracy is intentionally designed to be slow in order to protect it - and part of it is due to the fact that one party is highly dysfunctional and entirely bought and paid for by interest groups, both foreign and domestic.
And yet, they don't.
That's the point. Russians don't have to lie about the neglect of the American people, and pretending that Russia's the problem here is a little silly to me when the vast majority of Americans are impoverished and definitely being robbed of their labor.
The Russian lie is that the support of Ukraine and existing American social issues are meaningfully related, that if the former wouldn't exist, the latter could be solved. You're dangerously close to repeating this lie.
It's not a lie, though.
We do neglect our people's needs so we can be involved in like nine wars at once, including Ukraine. Most countries provide for the basic needs of their people and can only maintain a sustained war for months at most.
It's your right to support that. It's my right to point out how remarkably shitty it is that we do this to our people.
It is. The two things aren't related as a couple of users already said.
Thank you for your response.
@Flash Mob #5678
The Kremlin lies by relating U.S. social policy to Ukraine aid, although these things have nothing to do with each other. One major objective of these trolls is to undermine the trust in Western values, democracy, and human rights.
It is true that Russian (and other totalitarian states') disinformation exploits social problems in other countries to sew mistrust in their Western pllitical systems, blacken Western politicians' reputations, and breed conspiracy theories. (This was already a major goal in the USSR propaganda during the cold war in the 20th century, btw.)
Political polarization and growing social inequality are creating a fruitful ground for this propaganda and the spread of conspiracy theories, especially if and when Western politicians trade democratic values for short-term political gains (which is what some U.S. and European politicians appear to do right now, especially from the far right).
But, again, the U.S. can do both as it has been said, increasing social welfare and helping Ukraine. If Ukraine doesn't win this war, Russia will attack more countries, and I guess China is watching closley how the West reacts given Beijing's intentions and activities in Taiwan and the South China Sea. If Ukraine doesn't win this war, it gets worse for all of us, in the U.S., in Europe and the much bigger rest of the world.
"one party"
It's important that, when pushing back on both-sideism, you don't run to the other extreme and deny the structural deficiencies that the system propagates through all of its constituent part(ie)s. Both parties take money from dark-money SuperPACs and special-interest lobbyists and corporate donors, because that's how the system was designed.