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I can’t say I blame them for feeling betrayed but Islam like the majority of the Christianity leans to the conservative side socially when it comes to sexuality and gender identity. They shouldn’t be surprised when an all Muslim majority city council starts to act on their belief system and enact ordinances that run against the more socially liberal citizens.

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[–] mizmoose 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In general, Muslims don't. Only the extremely conservative ones do.

Many religions have conservative factions that think that their religious laws should also be general laws.

Muslim religious law, just like Jewish religious law, only applies to people of their faith. For most people in their faith, the religious law is only applied in religious settings. It is independent of non-religious law because both religions realize that not everyone belongs to their faith. It's only when you get zealots that you get the idea that everyone has to follow the religious laws.

It's only Christianity that tries to force non-Christians to live by Christian rules, whether it's businesses closed on the Christian Sabbath (something that's waned in the past 50 years, but I can recall it being hard to find stores open on Sunday in the 1980s), laws about women's reproduction rights (outside of extremists, Judaism is pro-abortion) as well as gender and sexuality, and protests over absurd things like the words "happy holidays."

I've yet to see Jewish people protesting that bacon is sold at Kroger or Muslim people demanding that they're wished Eid Mubarak.

[–] wahming@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As somebody who grew up in a Muslim country, you're flat out wrong.

[–] mizmoose 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US is not a Muslim country. I'm not talking about Muslims in a Muslim country or Jews in Israel. I'm talking about the US, which this article is about.

[–] wahming@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your comment is talking about Christians and Muslims in general, there's nothing in there that indicates you're talking about the population in a specific country. Nor is the comment you're replying to referring to a specific country.

Even giving you that, I find it hard to believe. The only reason the Muslims aren't behaving as you say the Christians are is because they don't have the authority or force of numbers. Name a single religious majority worldwide that doesn't push their values onto nonbelievers.

[–] deathmetal@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamtramck is dominated by a Muslim majority. There is not one USA, but many.

[–] mizmoose 3 points 1 year ago

There are a bunch of places in SE Michigan that has a large Muslim population. Michigan has more Arabic-language speaking people in it than any other US state.

Yet it's only the Christians who freak out about this. For a while there was a bizarre rumor being spread by Christian bigots that Dearborn, MI, which (last I knew) has even more Muslim people than Hamtramck, was run by a Muslim mayor with everyone forced to live under "Sharia Law." The mayor was Protestant and there is no place in Michigan where Muslim religious law is part of the area's laws.

[–] average650 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you been to Muslim countries?

[–] mizmoose 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about Muslim countries. I'm talking about the US, where Hamtramck, Michigaan is. Where Christianity is the force that pushes the laws, while they whine that the other religions are the ones making the laws.

Talking about other countries is disingenuous and irrelevant to the conversation. When I talk about what Judaism does I'm talking about Jews in the US (and Canada, and the UK, and other non-Jewish majority countries), not what Jews in Israel do.

[–] average650 3 points 1 year ago

You comment talks about this like it's about Muslims, christians and Jews in general. It has little to do with Islam's, Christianity, or judasim though, and much more to do with who is the majority, and who is historically the majority.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

This isn't even true in the US, much less the broader world.