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[–] cnnrduncan 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly. Most people don't want their governments to copy imperialistic authoritarian capitalist shitholes like China, the USA, or Russia.

The American government being awful doesn't mean that everybody else should copy them and be as awful as they can.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What reference do you have then, though? You've basically eliminated every country of reasonable size: India, China, America obviously, but also Pakistan, Indonesia, Brazil, Russia, Mexico and Nigeria, Bangladesh are in similar states.

[–] cnnrduncan 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah and? I don't want to live in an oppressive shithole, doesn't matter to me if they became oppressive because they were copying China, the USA, Nigeria, the UK or whatever - they'd still be oppressive!

I honestly didn't think that saying "I don't like authoritarian capitalism" would be such a controversial statement...

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've expressed disapproval without giving a solution. How would you ask the US or China to change and why do you think that would work?

[–] cnnrduncan 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've legitimately got no idea how they can fix their countries (or if they can even be fixed) as I'm more focused on my own country. I do not want my country to copy either the USA or China, and I resent the close relationship my government maintains with both of those oppressive states.

The USA pressured our government into performing illegal searches/arrests to favour their corporations, and the CCP has repeatedly been caught infiltrating our parliament. Those big authoritarian countries just bully smaller states to get what they want, and we need to stop pretending that it's morally justified and normal. It's not okay.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi, fellow Canadian!

To some degree there's a need to pick a side, because the alternative is to get stomped on by both (like what's happening now).

[–] cnnrduncan 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually I'm not from the Americas (though one of my ancestors did decide to leave Florida in the 1830s or 40s cos he had very dark coloured skin).

And I disagree that there's a need to "pick a side" - both "sides" will stomp on smaller countries no matter what because that's what authoritarian imperialistic powers do.