Midler came up playing the NYC bathhouses which were essentially fuck clubs for gay men before AIDS shuttered them all. I have a difficult time seeing her being anti-LGBT given how gay her fan base traditionally was.

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Oh, I'm sure she's still very pro-LGB. Most TERFs are (for now at least). It's the T part of the equation that they think it's acceptable to hate

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Sounds like her issue is with terms like birthing person rather than cis-woman.

[–] elfpie 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they are not equivalent. People that erase trans people read it like that and project. In a medical setting, the biology is important and the language makes sure all parts involved are included in the conversation.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This begs the question why is it acceptable to assign terms to people they do not identify as? Your comment would make sense in medical discussions about people giving birth but that's not how it is being used.

[–] Vodulas 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does not beg that question because that is literally how it is being used. Your continued hammering of that point is simply untrue and feels incredibly disingenuous since multiple people have told you that is how it is being used

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is being used to describe someone in a way they would prefer not to be used for them. Is this really that hard to see the overt hypocrisy in?

[–] Gaywallet 4 points 1 year ago

There's a distinct difference between complaining that you were labeled a certain way and being a celebrity and writing a rant apropos of nothing on Twitter about how an amorphous "they" are not calling us women anymore.

You're right that no one should be referred to in a way they don't want to be, but that only applies when they're not being intolerant. Punch Nazis and call them assholes and Nazis. It's good and cool.