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[–] skankhunt42@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wish obsidian had the rights...as og fallout fan it really hurts to see what bethesda is doing to the franchise

[–] bermuda 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean interplay? New Vegas is good but I've never thought it was so fundamentally different that bethesda was "hurting" the franchise as opposed to them.

[–] pbjamm 7 points 1 year ago

Interplay...feel like I am in the Wayback Machine. I worked there for a few years at the time of Carmageddon, Fallout1/2, Descent, and some other classics. A lifetime ago.

I still have my Vault13 flask from Fallout2. Sad that I can not really use it anymore though as the printing is very fragile now.

[–] skankhunt42@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

new vegas was pretty close to the roots while bethesda just borrows terms and artwork, but is never able to combine it with a story and chars that give you that fallout feeling.

not arguing that they basically took a dead ip and created games loved by millions. but if you are looking for og fallout new vegas is the way to go.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

why? almost nobody from obsidian has also worked on new vegas. and new vegas was and still is the buggiest fallout game ever made

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Buggiest and one of the best written. RPGs need high quality writing.

[–] HotDogFingies@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Yes. I love New Vegas. Fantastic storylines. I started off with 2 and I'd say that New Vegas is the title I remember with the most fondness. The Fallout franchise is in my top 3. Just a joy to play.

Have I tried unsuccessfully to revist it several times over the years? Also yes.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

rpgs also need to be playable. and the writing is very exposition heavy

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never said it was perfect, but the game got great reviews and won a bunch of awards because it's good despite the bugs.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

it actually made obsidian miss out on a bonus because it was so buggy it affected reviews

[–] skankhunt42@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the only bugs i remenber are related to running it on newer tech.

but the story and characters are awesome and it actually captures the fallout spirit, unlike f3/4/76.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there's no way f3/4/76 fail to capture the fallout spirit haha. what a weird statement to make

[–] skankhunt42@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess you never played 1 and 2. And 76 has obviously no other connection to fallout than the name, some words and assets. It is like the anti-fallout.

[–] bermuda 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of games that feel true to their roots without needing to feel like the same thing. 1 and 2 came out almost 30 years ago. While they're good games, there are other ways to explore those kinds of stories than by just replicating those two.

[–] skankhunt42@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

thats my point for new vegas, different but still giving you the good vibes of the original.

f3/4 is missing that completelly. feels more like fanfiction, but not the good kind.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so for fallout to feel like fallout it needs dated cringy 90s related humor? despite the fact the game takes place hundreds of years after the 90s? cause that's fallout 2

and im guessing you never played 76

[–] skankhunt42@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

og fallout humor is timeless...

to my utmost shame I have to admit that I preordered it. it was not only a slap in the face for all fallout fans but also all gamers. bethesda put zero effort into this cashgrab.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

theres no way you can see the detailed world and say thats zero effort. its like the best world bethesda has ever crafted. its huge, vaired, and interesting. regardless of the games own failings, its definitely not a zero effort release, otherwise they would have given up on it years ago

[–] Faydaikin 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, there's absolutely effort put into the graphics. It's just everything else that's missing.

The overall writing and direction in Bethesda's games is piss poor as they haven't prioritized it in some time. Even TES suffers from this. But I guess that's more about the crowd they're trying to appeal to.

It's all cool if you like Bethesdas version of the Fallout world. But not everyone else subscribes to it.

And for reasons that are quite valid. As Beth' has deviated far from the roots of the franchise.

[–] skankhunt42@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

directly from my heart. on point, wish I could upvote more

[–] storksforlegs 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dont know, I would argue Fallout 76 was much buggier.

[–] AttackBunny 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO it depends on the system, and they are buggier in different ways. I've never not been able to play 76, but New Vegas would just shut down, or freeze, and you'd lose a bunch of stuff. Even 3 I still have never played the alien mothership DLC because it just wouldn't let me. I'd get to the beam me up part, and it would freeze every time. I've also only played it on playstation, I've heard less issues with other systems.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

bethesda had a lot of problems making their games work on ps3, its why the dragonborn dlc for skyrim was released way later than it was on xbox