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Hey Beeple, since there's a common trend on the topics on (de)federation, we made a post to clarify what this means.

You can see the conversation over here: https://beehaw.org/post/615042

This is also correct, and we're hoping we can do so sooner rather than later. 😉

Unfortunately, the inconvenience is something of a catch 22. Do we allow everything through for the sake of convenience? What happens when extreme content that is NSFL gets posted? What happens when illegal content is federated, or hate speech that indicates action will be taken is made? What happens when you observe a pattern of this behavior from a common source? Content must be moderated for things to be "safe" and the rate that unsafe, nonaligned content was coming in wasn't sustainable.

Choosing to defederate wasn't taken lightly and it was done reluctantly. It was discussed for two days after observing systemic effects from those instances and after reaching out to the instance admins for alternatives.

I see you're posting not from a beehaw account, which means you likely haven't seen @Gaywallet@beehaw.org 's post on what it is to be a community and the framework to get there. This posts may help you understand this instances stance on things and what our instances users are hoping for is to build.

All in all, sorry you're not happy, but we're being careful for our community.

We're open by default because we have the belief that you have a right to demonstrate you can be a good actor. @Gaywallet@beehaw.org details this in the philosophy of our community.

Trust me when I say defederation was the last choice on the radar for this situation.

Unfortunately, defederating means the cord has been cut. This means we still have what was previously been posted, but all future content is bidirectionally blocked.

This is true, except for one element:

Fediverse should mean a user of any instance should be able to use any community the instance elects to federate with. Lemmy is open by design, but instances can just as easily switch that feature off and go to a allowlist method.

A commonly missed element with federation is that you federate with who you trust since you essentially mirror their content. It's less apparent with the lemmy migration, but mastodon used to caution its users to "join an instance that aligns with your preferences" for this reason.

Federation is really a philosophy about mutual trust, just like how email providers can block messages by user, instance, or domain.

Trust me, there's likely more gating present than you're aware of. Maybe not at lemmy.world (which as of this post is only blocking one site for reasons I won't mention), but this can get dark pretty quick if you leave things completely open.

Also on gitlab instances

https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/pages/

Really takes the complications out of hosting if you can build things as a JAM style site.

Hey beeple, we're trying to keep the discussion on reddit centralized on beehaw in the thread: https://beehaw.org/post/576904

Let's move over to there

There are a few other reasons I know of:

1. Archive.org links tend to pass through the paywall on sites that have them, so it provides opportunity to view content without that hiccup.
2. Digital sustainability is really hard. Many links have a short lifespan, or articles are "evergreen" and end up changing from when the post was made. This creates a snapshot to prevent both these issues.
3. Prevents the "hug of death", when an unsuspecting site goes from 1k visitors a day to 500k. Not all sites are resilient to that kind of traffic shaping.

Agree that it does bypass the good sites, but some have concerns over these points.

That said, you're placing your faith in your archive site to stay up and continue to function.

Hey folks, with the surge of posts on reddit in recent days, we've been centralizing the discussion in our megathread.

Feel free to continue the chat over here:

https://beehaw.org/post/576904

In case you missed it,, we do have a programming community already at !programming@beehaw.org

Yep, this also falls under a subgenre of Kawaii Music (meaning cute music) and Future Bass, although this one has heavy funk influences.

I've found Snail's House to have a really unique sound, but Fusq and Dark Cat are fairly similar in style.