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What caused you to get into it, are you an evangel and are you obsessed?

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was on windows and I was forced to update and then it bricked my computer and I had to reinstall windows except when I did it asked me for a windows license key. I tried everything to recover my license key but wasn't able to.

This was around the time linus texh tips was teasing his upcoming month on linux series so I was like fuck it I'll give it a go. Spent a week on mint and wifi was broken then tried Endeavor, Garuda and fedora and settled on manjaro. Manjaro was amazing to me. Everything worked out of the box and kde plasma looked so clean and I could set it up exactly how I wanted.

Then I watched linus tech tips video on linux and I was like wtf how did he have such a bad experience is he dumb?

[–] LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's pretty much the quintessential QA tester. He wants to do things his way, regardless of whether or not the OS wants him to do that. He's usually skilled enough to fix anything he messes up, but he doesn't know enough about Linux to do that, so he ends up breaking things. I feel like most people have a better experience than he did, but his technique uncovered a ton of bugs and usability issues that significantly improved the Linux desktop to have fixed.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Knows enough to be dangerous and confident enough to dive in head first. Deadly combo

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[–] PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was fucking around with my windows pc.

And then i found out that you can fuck more around in linux, and that was the story of my first ubuntu iso burned on a cd.

I had no clue about anything but was blown away by something "different"

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[–] 18107@aussie.zone 20 points 1 year ago

Windows kept doing things I didn't want it to.

The last straw was when I had a 24 hours render running, and Windows decided to update and reboot 1 hour before it was done. I was using the computer at the time, RAM, CPU, and GPU were all at max, the mouse was being moved, I clicked "later" every time the update pop-up appeared, and it still rebooted.

Linux does what I tell it to, and doesn't do what I tell it not to do. I didn't think that was a big ask until Windows.

[–] heyfluxay@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I joined the Fediverse and it seemed like everyone was using it!

I’m unable to fully convert at the moment, but boot it up every so often to experiment.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao, i mean fediverse, opensource, descentralized, and need a linux server to run, overlap very much

[–] heyfluxay@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Well……ummm….yes.

[–] waspentalive@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Windows Telemetry at first. Then Windows browbeating various products - "Edge please download Firefox" - Edge: "Why, I am better than Firefox" Me:"Do as I say" Edge: "But -blah blah nah" and so on. I know there are ways around it, but if someone can force an update against my will on my machine, it is not my machine. This leads to questions of what else can they do without my permission. Linux is my machine. I control when and how and what. Also customization.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Microsoft anti-consumer shitfuckery. I've never had any problems with Windows on a technical level. It has its share of annoyances, but so does Linux. But the ever increasing drive to take away control from the user in order to squeeze out the last penny of revenue just got too much.

[–] yrmyli@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Back in the 90s when I was in uni, it was the only way to have a unix-like development environment for C/C++. I also spent an inordinate amount of time testing linux on exotic hardware, like 386 laptops or older Macs. There weren't many distros back then, but I tried them all: Debian, Red Hat, Mandrake, SuSE, m86kLinux and even (shudder) Slackware.

It was (and still is) an extremely fun way to tinker around. But I have to say, I'm not complaining that pretty much everything works out of the box nowadays!

Most people want to stick to Windows or MacOS, and that's fine for them if they want to put up with it. Pushing Linux or OSS in general is counter productive IMO and just puts people on the defensive. I'd rather plant a seed here and there. If someone complains about Windows on a kid's laptop, then hey, I got an old laptop for my daughter and put Fedora on it. It was easy to install and maintain, unobstrusive and she can get everything done for school she needs. Or talking about gaming - you know the Steam Deck? You can game without Windows - Linux is a painless, drop-in replacement!

It pains me that a lot of Linux users were pushy elitist neckbeards that spent so much energy defending their distro of choice and Linux in general. The community tends to make Linux appear like some difficult, arcane way of using a computer. "First you must pass the initiation rite and choose the correct distro!" Seriously, fuck that mindset. Just download whatever, install it and enjoy hassle-free computing!

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Foss philosophy and being poor

[–] Astaroth@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

End of Windows 7

[–] rebul@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows 10. I was happy with Windows 7, got prompted to 'upgrade' to Windows 10... I declined. Next morning, my PC had Windows 10 installed. I got this crazy idea that my PC belonged to me and that I would be the one to decide what OS to use. Hello Linux Mint.

[–] MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

This so much. It's like, you'd think when you shell out cash to pay for a license (or well, I did anyways. But tbf, most PCs you buy come with a valid license), you'd at least be entitled to do as you will with your copy of the OS (within reason, i mean. Yeah, less than legal stuff, go off Microsoft, but stuff like settings and such?) But, well...Microsoft just loves telling you "you opted out, but what you REALLY meant was to opt in. Source: because we say so" with basic settings, not surprising the do it for an OS...of course they would. My bud said it best at the time: they don't care how you gain it, they just want everone to be on Windows 10

[–] Bananable@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just windows, I had windows 10 installed on my laptop and was constantly fighting with windows update so when the system broke (wouldn't boot) I finally installed Ubuntu. These days I use arch BTW.

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[–] thelastknowngod@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hated Windows. TechTV had a download of day that "works on both Windows and Linux!"

"I don't know what Linux is but it can't be worse that Windows."

I've been on it ever since. That was 20+ years ago.

I honestly don't know how windows works.. I only ever used it for about a year and some change when I was a teenager in the 90s.

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[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

I'm a cheap bastard.

Free is free

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Resenting Microsoft more than I hated Linux basically. When Windows started pushing malware-like popups and automatically "upgrading" peoples OS without asking I started using Linux as my main OS. At that point I disliked Linux because I had had some bad experiences with attempting to use it in the past, but it was becoming clear it is the lesser of two evils. Over the years it got more tolerable while Windows just got worse. Not an evangelist or obsessed at all, I actually still dislike it, but there's no way I'm going back.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I thought maybe Minecraft would run faster on it. It didn’t, but it kicked off a learning process.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows. Windows caused me to get into it.

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[–] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

win10 EOL support. Genuinely hate the incorporation of AI into the OS.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 7 points 1 year ago

Just curiosity really, it was when I first started learning Java from my father's old textbook. The "Getting your environment setup" had instructions for both Windows, OS X, and Linux/Ubuntu.

Of them all, the instructions for Ubuntu were the simplest (sudo apt-get install openjdk or a similar package), in order to get the Java dev tools installed.

Ended up giving Ubuntu a look in a VM since I hadn't heard of "Linux/Ubuntu" (which was also the first time I used a VM) during the 8.04 days!

Funnily enough I actually put Java down for a bit since I just couldn't get into it. IIRC though, my first project on my GitHub had something to do with Python+GTK. Then eventually I got back into Java when I discovered I could make Minecraft plugins/mods.

Of course I was pretty young at the time, maybe 13 or 14? So I didn't know (or would've cared) about the whole privacy aspect of Linux - that came much later. But ever since then, like many others, I've always maintained that Linux is the best development environment for me.

[–] indigojasper@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i came because of microsoft paranoia, then stayed for the customization

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

I got tired of windows breaking its self. Windows XP would get very slow after using it for a while and would need a reinstall to fix it.

[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was just a tech-obsessed teenager who thought it seemed cool. Messed around with it but since gaming was a pain in the ass I shelved it and went to Windows. Eventually administering Linux systems became my career.

Windows 11 is hot garbage. I haven’t had anything outright break, but with my hardware my machine should not be as slow as it is. Installed Ubuntu since it’s what I messed around with as a teenager and here we are.

However, now that gaming is even relatively painless in Linux, it’s here to stay on my personal desktop. A couple tools still require a Windows install but 90% of my usage is Linux and I don’t see that changing any time soon.

EDIT: I wouldn’t say I’m an evangel or anything. I don’t preach Linux to people, nor would I want to get my friends and family into it. The last thing I want to do is troubleshoot their botched install because they fucked around with system files and broke something.

I wouldn’t really say I’m obsessed either, it’s an OS. It allows me to actually do the things I want to do, and quickly. I enjoy it but I don’t plan on distro hopping, making low level tweaks, or anything. It just works and lets me work and play games. That’s good enough for me.

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[–] Crabhands@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago
[–] Mio@feddit.nu 6 points 1 year ago

Servers in school. Learned how to setup a website, Linux tools test. Then at home how to setup a Counter Strike server.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

OS2/Warp

IBM showed us there could be a superior OS that wasn't Windows or Mac. Been chasing that dragon ever since.

[–] ardent_abysm@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Messing around with a Raspberry Pi was what got me over the threshold of learning enough to utilize Linux primarily, and then eventually exclusively.

Obsessed? No. Persistently interested though.

I communicate Linux as an option when the circumstance are appropriate. It is often not worth getting involved in other people's tech decisions. My mother is now a satisfied Mint user, after she asked me if there was more pleasant and private way to use her computer. It has been great for me, because my providing tech support has gone to basically zero.

[–] Noctechnical@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

How to dual boot linux mint and windows (ended up accidentally ended up just having mint on my drive).

[–] Teon@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

McAfee Antivirus.
Got so tired of the software slowing down the computer and freaking out over non-virus programs. Also the price to renew was stupid.
No need for AV running 24/7 on Linux.
After using a few different distros over a couple of years I decided to never go back to Windows (and I detest Apple so that will never be an option), and I settled on Kubuntu.
So. Damn. Happy.

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[–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

curiosity, originally. this was back at the very earliest days of slack and debian, some 30 years ago.

i am not 'obsessed' with linux itself, but i have a definite preference for FOSS over proprietary solutions.

[–] memmi@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

For me it was all the frustration I had trying to disable Win11 telemetry and other non-essential distruptive things like adds in the start menu.

Switched to Debian with GNOME. I have been super happy ever since. Seamless transition and awesome experience using a OS that is not adversarial.

NASA.

I was PMing a student project for NASA and the sheer number of tabs and files I had open on my PC killed Windows.

I had a week until the deadline and I'm in a situation where things may or may not save, basic functionality was questionable and I had literally thousands of pages information to format and get out.

Once I turned it in I installed Linux and never looked back.

[–] nixchick@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Lack of money, I couldn't afford to pay for a Windows license. After discovering how to install Linux more than 25 years ago, I became eager to learn it and never looked back.

[–] sunred@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Basically servers and Pis.

If you wanted to host your own site and services, a Linux vps was (and still is) the only choice. Back then it was Debian, nowadays I use Arch on everything. Same with Raspberry Pis when the first one became available in 2012. With university I started using Arch on my laptop and later when Proton and Wayland became good, I moved to it on the Desktop as well.

[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I had always used Windows for the longest time. I used a certain cloud service and was impressed with how easy it was to manage services with docker. Fast forward a couple of years and I got a small mini-PC with Windows. I tried to install docker on it but Windows back then had no way of using Docker without virtualizing it with Hyper-V, a Pro feature. I thought let me give this another try. I tried to replicate the same setup with NSSM tools. It kinda worked eventually but it was a dirty hack at best and I did not like this solution.

I thought to myself, why would I pay Microsoft to use a feature I can use for free with Linux and get better performance while at it.

Here we are 7-8 years later.

[–] kpw@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Something felt wrong using Windows. It felt right when I switched to Linux.

I built a computer and didn't have high speed Internet about 18 years ago. Couldn't get Windows activated so a friend gave me a (Debian?) CD so I could get something going. Been keeping old machines alive with it ever since.

[–] envelope@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I used Unix workstations in college. After graduation my choices were MS-DOS and Windows 3.1, or a real OS. Started with Slackware in the mid-1990's.

[–] mranderson17@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

Dark mode back in the day (XP/Vista era). I wanted to theme everything and have cool UI/visual features in a non-shady download-this-third-party-totally-safe-theme-engine-wink-wink way.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The constant reinstalling of windows. I actively resisted it because I wasn’t interested in learning something new. My laziness eventually kicked in and it was easier to learn Linux.

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried it out and discovered none of the annoyances I had with windows existed here, then I started customizing things, redesigning my interface from the ground up to make everything as optimized as possible, to an extent that would never be possible on windows.

Plus I have massive ethical concerns regarding proprietary software.

Now I can't leave.

[–] majorequivalent01@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

windows 8 that came with my core i3 laptop. did not jump into the windows10 bandwagon for all the bad things i was hearing about it. gave up when some apps start doing crazy stuff because os is old. mucked around with mint, and distro hopping from usb. mind-blown. now i've acquired a fairly new laptop and dual booted with debian12. has never done a random restart on it for months (due to force-it-down-your-throat-win-update). i still use a win laptop for work and some games, but that will never touch my personal computer. it's fun reading all the comments here. thanks :)

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Cost and price ..... I could never afford much in terms of tech purchases 20 years ago.

Always collected second hand systems, first learned to find and use cracked windows copies, then when that got too complicated and difficult, found Linux and have never looked back. The amount of money I've saved not to paying for proprietary software, went into buying better hardware that I used to install Linux and OSS software.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago
[–] deadbeef@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

I've been using Linux for something like 27 years, I wouldn't say evangelical or particularly obsessed.

I started using it because some of the guys showing up to my late 90's LAN parties were dual booting Slackware it and it had cool looking boot up messages compared to DOS or Windows at the time. The whole idea of dual booting operating systems was pretty damn wild to me at the time too.

After a while it became obvious to me that Slackware '96 was way more reliable than DOS or Windows 95 at the time, a web browser like Netscape could take out the whole system pretty easily on Windows, but when Netscape crashed on Linux, you opened up a shell and killed off whatever was left of it and started a new one.

I had machines that stayed up for years in the late 90's and that was pretty well impossible on Windows.

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