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[–] ProtonBadger@kbin.social 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I haven't booted Windows since February and at this point I'm afraid to.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago

Be afraid, be very afraid.

[–] LostXOR@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you haven't used Windows in that long you might as well just get rid of it.

[–] Morphior@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not possible for me. I daily Arch (btw) and hadn't booted into Windows for months and months until my university professor came along and said "btw, we're gonna build GUIs using Microsoft Foundation Classes in Visual Studio now, and yes, you have to use Visual Studio on Windows in the exam". So nope, not uninstalling Windows.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Sounds like prime time for a virtual machine to me!

[–] jlow 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was wondering if you can do BIOS updates through wine (because obviously they only are supplied as .exes) but it doesn't sound like something I'd like to try ...

[–] LostXOR@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't BIOS updates usually done by putting the update file on a flash drive and installing it from the BIOS? I've never heard of updating BIOS from Windows with an executable.

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[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Yesterday after a reboot windows added a fucking bing search bar in the middle of my desktop.

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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] penquin@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

They're talking about the Debian installer.

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[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

people who insist on using windows should just run it in a VM, it has suprisingly low overhead these days, you can even game with it if you insist, but i'm hearing wine/proton is getting good enough that it doesn't even matter

[–] moon_matter@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

You're still stuck when it comes to anti-cheat in multiplayer games. Some do allow it to work on Linux, but a significant number don't. Hopefully the tides slowly start to change thanks to the Steam Deck.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One time i opened windows to change a setting on my mouse that had windows only software

The app didnt boot so i tried to restary windows. It decided to update, froze in the middle of the update, and broke

After then everytime i tried to open windows it would send me back to the gnu grub screen

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

After then everytime i tried to open windows it would send me back to the gnu grub screen

Sounds like it did you a favor

[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a single windows 11 system while everything else is on some form of Linux distro.

That windows system has never been connected to the internet, and it has been great without ever causing any of the typical update issues (although I update applications/components manually over an isolated NAS link).

It's sad to see that everyday users have gotten habituated to these constant workflow braking updates. No wonder many people I know are jumping to the Apple ecosystem after getting a taste with a M2.

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[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Wait, you guys can click in grub?

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Too real. I booted up windows last week because I wanted to test something quickly before going to bed... starting it and testing my thing took about 5 mins; but then shutting down took more than half an hour.

[–] wulrus@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Happened to me just yesterday.

Wife: what are you doing? Me: pushing the hard reset button. Wife: it's not possible. Windows started booting up! Me: No, it's necessary.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OSHA would say having a Windows install is a potential hazard because it can become dangerous if activated. To remedy, you must remove the hazard.

Safety is no accident.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

wish you could install only security updates

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[–] thepiguy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I was afraid of exactly this happening. So I just deleted my partition when I fully committed to Linux a few years ago.

[–] Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I can’t change the taskbar size

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is actually crazy, its too big

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

That's what she said

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what do u use? genuinely asking. i use systemd-boot bc its default for my distro

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Systemd-boot

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I dunno about the guy you're responding to, but I run rEFInd

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Its poorly the defacto standard on most common distros

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the problem with GRUB and will it impact someone who sees the boot menu maybe three times a year at most?

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing is wrong with grub, I'm taking the piss by saying quippy things on a meme post.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, gotcha. You weren't the only one to say this, so I thought there might be something more to it.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think so. You just want to pick the right tool for your system. With modern uefi boot systems, systemd-boot is simpler and quicker. There are use cases for grub, such as if you have the kernal outside of an efi partition.

Systemd-boot is my personal preference, boots fast, is unintrusive, and you never have to rebuild anything to make changes.

In the end, everyone is free to use what they want. That's the beauty of Linux.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just use some unknown program in binary form downloaded from random site that require adminstration access and God knows what it does, because Windows don't have an option or config file to change simple thing👌.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can, in Windows, boot into a no network safe mode and set various registry and group policies to stop Windows updates.

If you're particularly frisky, there are alternatives to the WSUS, Windows Server Update Service you could deploy on your local network.

It's a lot of work, though.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

It's a lot of work, though.

Exactly. I have tried them all before and it is a lot of work and that's why I opted for this one click solution. Sure, it's not open source, but I've been using it for years, it's never done something malicious. I've also done some RCE on it, and I came to the conclusion that this thing is most probably legit and has no malicious intents.

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[–] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it was the opposite. I had Ubuntu installed and wanted to do a upgrade to the next release, took around 2 hours "settings things up" where I just said fuck it and force closed it.

[–] KrankyKong@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

My experience with big release distros was like that. I rarely had an upgrade complete without issue. Rolling release has been good to me so far. Granted, this was 10 years ago and things gave probably gotten better since.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this one i don't understand im in windows insider beta so i get a lot of frequent updates but i never notice them because windows has gotten good at only doing them when im not on the computer. so ill wake up and they're already completed

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, windows likes to wake your computer from sleep to update and reboot without your permission. All unsaved work be damned.

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