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Couple of suggestions. I want so badly to love Junghans… I’ve owned half a dozen or so, but most have had at least one issue. Misaligned hands, poorly lubricated movements, screws missing on caseback, etc. While there is potential, I think they need to look into their QC before qualifying as a bang for buck watch. Yes they’re reasonably priced and look good, but only if they work. Second, and this I recognize is much more subjective, but I believe Autodromo belongs on this list under bang for buck. And before you start screaming at me about Miyota movements, I will defend them against the 2824 and Powermatic all day. Even if you disagree, and even if you disagree with the ethos or don’t love the designs, you gotta respect the execution, which, of the 5 I’ve owned, has been impeccable. And they actually hold most of their value, at least so far. I would put the execution as high as any brand south of Omega.
200k/year is "middle class" in this sub?
That’s top quintile nationally.
Whoever put this list together is clueless. Brand perception and cost with Grand Seiko? Lmao
Way too much focus on “how you will be perceived by others” that other subreddit is going to love this…
Ranking / classifying watch brands - what a brilliant and fresh idea!
I think Tissot has to be bang for back along with Hamilton etc. the PRX and new Chemin Des Tourelles, Le Locle, Gentleman ie powermatic 80s etc., have stepped things up a notch.
JLC needs to be in the same tier as Patek and Lange, I don’t care what anybody says
Certina?
Omega is definitely not “ideal cost” anymore. Their QC is also questionable.
Where is citizen??
Gotta be Bang for Buck/just buy tier, especially with 2023’s releases
Ooo which ones?
I generally like this list.
I wish Sinn's 903 Navitimer had better attention to detail like actually make the slide rule hash marks line up flush. I would totally buy.
I also love Seiko and would put that in Just buy. You literally cannot go wrong.
Citizen should also go bang for buck tier and I want to see what people think of cult classic Vostok (love mine)
IWC and Breitling are definitely within the price range of Omega and Cartier.
Tudor is financially mindful but Rolex isn’t? They’re like 10% difference in price on the low end. Wtf.
Also gotta stop with the blowing of Casio and Timex. I get they provide decent watches for low price, but bang for your Buck isn’t everything.
I could never buy a Zenith because of the word association to those crappy old tube TVs
And whenever I see Christopher Ward I think of that annoying IT guy that’s getting his first real watch because he realized that his Apple Watch didn’t actually help him get in shape. They’re interesting but to me they’re the Skechers of the watch world
Just my input into the few things I disagree with. But my favorite brands (Omega, Nomos, Oris, Junghans, Hamilton) are in here and exactly where I’d put them, so great job.
Probably just a US thing cos I have never heard of such a thing until I researched Zenith's (Watchmaker) history.
BVLGARI?
RM over AP ? 😭😭😭
Sinn is def not a bang for buck and I am german living in Frankfurt 😭
I like this list because all I own are grand seiko , omega and rolex.
Piaget? Nope.
Zenith maybe, barely. Not as recognizable, but up there
You generally nailed the irresponsible cost row. Rolex for all their annoyance is not over expensive for many models MSRP
$200k in Manhattan vs $200k in St. Louis are two very different things.one puts omega in play and the other does not.
Perfect
This reads like cope, enjoy your Cartier/omega/grand seiko/zenith/piaget.
Such a list is pointless because it differs between everyone’s situation(and no, upper middle class with responsibilities is not specific).
Hublot - “why” lol
I feel like Nomos should be in the tier above. They are cheaper but not cheap, especially for the mechanical ones. But their quality is outstanding. My Club Sport is sublime.
After the incredible amount of reactions and feedback from the last tier list I created, I wanted to do an update based on comments that changed my mind and, hopefully, a better structuring of the tiers!
I put it in the description, but a reminder that this isn't a tier list to decide which brand is the most valuable, makes the best watch, is the best bang for buck. It's about what watches
people in a specific situation (which I imagine a fair number of watch enthusiasts fall into) should consider!
Argue away!
Would add Laco and Stowa in bang for buck. Omega, zenith seem too expensive for truly middle class professional. For me that tops out at longines which isn't a bad place to be!
Great list over all! Agree with most of it overall.
-I personally would swap Tissot for Sinn in my list. Own a couple Sinn, I really like them but they have been whelming over the past 5 years unfortunately admittedly. Tissot has been hitting some grand slams in the last couple years, not just the PRX, but several other lineups have been steadily improved!
-AP I’d move up one row personally and maybe move J&co and Brequet down one row
Tissot is a great thing for it’s money. I got one of their automatic watches for like 300$ back in 2021 and I love it. It works good, never had problems with it (got a frederique constant gifted also in 2021 and this thing already has been at repair a year later), they even made a decorated rotor and a see through caseback. It also has 100m water resistance, calendar and lume on hands. I also own one quartz tissot and it’s nice too
The new model Chemin Des Tourelles has to also put them above whelming
I'd consider taking Seiko out of the bang for the buck tier based on prices I've seen recently.
Also, putting Grand Seiko with the likes of Omega is silly as far as perception goes. People in this sub will recognize a GS and that’s mostly it. Plenty of average people have heard of Omega.
Hublot amongst Gucci and invicta? Oh come on mate lol.
So what I’m hearing is I should just buy that timex expedition north field solar watch with a sapphire crystal for like $150
that's a hella cool watch man!
As an upper middle class professional who owns an Oris and Tudor I applaud this list.