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do you not smell body odor or do you just get used to it?

Genuinely curious. I have met a few people of different walks of life that I could tell did not and I have always used it, so I’m just curious. I know there was a couple that stopped using it for around a year, and they said their body actually end up not perspiring as much as when they used antiperspirant, but I’d like to know other people’s experiences.

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[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you know they all weren't wearing it?

There are a lot of people who do wear it but continue to smell because of underlying medical conditions. For example, fruity smelling body odor can indicate diabetes. People with a rare genetic condition called Trimethylaminuria can smell strongly of fish. It all depends on what bacteria (which outnumber your own body cells by 10 to 1 even though they are only 2% of your body mass) and what balance of enzymes you may or may not have.

Reducing perspiration can and often does help, concealing the odor with different ones can help, but sometimes people's bodies just aren't right for whatever mass produced product they have bought. Sometimes that can be fixed with medication. Sometimes it can't.

[–] loopy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That’s a fair point. I guess only one or two I knew said they didn’t use it because of the aluminum, but I didn’t get to ask more about it.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Regular deodorant works just as well as antiperspirant for stopping scent, and if you don't sweat all that much, there is relatively little difference.

[–] June@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

This is what I do. I don’t like the ingredients that make up antiperspirants so I stick with not stinking.

I generally don’t sweat too badly either, which helps.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Luckily I don't sweat much or smell much, so basic solid unparfumed deodorant works fine.

[–] lukini 27 points 1 year ago

Do you mean deodorant? I don't use antiperspirant because it actually makes me sweat more in my experience. I'm not alone on this either.

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So here is what I've noticed.

The acceptance of sweat BO is partly a cultural thing. At my workplace we have people from all over the world, and there are certain parts of the world where it is clearly uncommon to wear deoderant. Both men and women, although I have noticed it far more with men. I guess if everyone had natural BO, it wouldn't seem so unusual.

This is not to be confused with uncleanliness, I'm sure these people shower, the scent is purely one of sweat from hard physical labor. It is never better or worse, but always the same and in fact, you can identify people by their particular unique scent.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I'm a bit disturbed by strong manly BO because they are too... arousing. Specially in places like at work where feeling arousal is the last thing I want.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

It's not just cultural in terms of nations it's also dependent on the type of work. You're going to be critical of a taxi driver stinking of BO when he sits in an air conditioned cab all day, but not somebody doing physical labour in the open air

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Some people don't sweat that much. For example, I have to use antiperspirant to avoid body odor but my wife don't need to use one and I can't smell odor.

This is probably related to this genetic trait. I have wet earwax and body odor, while my wife has dry earwax and no body odor.

Quote from the article:

In general people with the non-functioning ABCC11 variant don’t need to wear deodorant.

[–] BitsOfBeard@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Yep this actually varies among people. The "wet" type is soft kinda like warm candle wax, and more common in the West. AFAIK the "dry" type is more brittle and crumbly and more common in East Asia.

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[–] raptir@lemdro.id 18 points 1 year ago

As many others have said, the choice is not between antiperspirant and nothing. I use deodorant but no antiperspirant.

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

Deodorant user here. I smell great because of it. I didn't like antiperspirant because I also found I smelt worse because of it and it never really stopped the sweat very well anyways.

Something you may not factor in though is people expire at different rates. Also, some people smell worse than others regardless of expiration time and some perspire more.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I've never once noticed someone's body odor. On the other hand, some who just finished showering using a fruity shampoo reeks imo. Ditto for people who use perfume or cologne. And those often can also cause allergies for many people...

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yep, I have some sensitivity to fragrances and perfumes and unfortunately, people who use standard shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, laundry soap and dryer sheets smell horrible to me, sometimes from 5 feet away or just being in the same room. Some shampoo is so strong that I can smell it just from them having been in the same room 3 minutes ago. It’s unfortunate that sometimes, it’s people who think they’re being civilized and responsible, while in fact their scented stuff is causing problems that won’t exist otherwise. It’s actually harder to find products that don’t do this, though, as the standard American mainstream brand ones are all awful as far as fragrances go (Pantene, pert, suave, Gain, Tide, Bounce, Snuggle etc).

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've never once noticed someone's body odor

You are truly fortunate xD

I work in a warehouse and omg the things I have smelled. The worst is when the person working in front of me has strong BO and a fan is blowing it into my face all day.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't be worse than someone with cologne sitting between you and a fan...

[–] ThoGot@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Really depends on the cologne / dosage

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

I'm allergic to aluminum-based antiperspirants, and I didn't know there was another kind for a long time, so I've always just used deodorant. It has never been a problem for me.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Apparently antiperspirant is not that good for you so I did quit using it for a year or so after the pandemic so I was at home anyways. I would use more natural deodorant without aluminum or anything bad but maaaaaaaaaan my pits stunk and washing with soap didn't even eliminate it. After I started using it again because I couldn't even stand my own BO it disappeared immediately. I don't always shower every day and don't put it on except after showering and drying off and the smell after 2 days without a shower is much more pleasant than half an hour after showering during the time period I wasn't using it. Why that is, idk. You wouldn't think it would be that bad especially if I was showering. I would even try stuff like vinegar on my pits but it didn't help.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

My nose/sinus/throat is all very sensitive to perfumes and aerosols these days, and even if it's not strong enough to close my throat up and choke me, it still tends to make me feel sick. I've not used any spray and rarely any smelly stuff for over a decade.

Most soaps and some shower gels are fine though, so there's no problem with starting a day "clean".

On the morning train, you can normally smell people who use deodorant instead of washing. It's quite hard to describe - air freshener in a festival toilet? Artificial sweeteners on a stilton cheese? Anyway, if their perfume isn't strong enough to physically harm me, I don't care.

I used spray deodorants as a teenager, and unscented roll-ons for many years after - but after stopping using it, I found, like the couple you mentioned, that I didn't sweat as much, and the sweat that was there didn't smell as bad. Oddly enough, anecdotal evidence suggests my natural smell increased my attractiveness quite significantly. Of course, all of these may have just been coincidental factor of age/hormones/circumstances etc though.

I was a bit paranoid for some years, and always asked/checked with trusted people "do I smell?". I found I can smell myself when I do.

My work is sometimes quite physically demanding, so during the ~two months a year when it's potentially warm (Northern UK), you can get a bit sweaty - but so is everyone else. If you really feel the need, a quick armpit wash in a sink at lunchtime, or a "festival shower" with a wet-wipe would sort that out.

Anyway, so the rough answer is "There is less body odour. You get used to what's there. Most of it smells quite pleasant, sometimes even to the extent of it being animalistically magnetically attractive"

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't use deodorant or antiperspirant, and have not for years (decades even). I have asked and no-one has said I smell bad - although I'm not a heavy sweater. If I have worked out/done heavy exercise then I'll generally shower if I can, but even if I don't it's not a rank smell, just a 'musk' ( I have asked). I've worked with a guy that did use antiperspirant/deodorant and by half way through the day he was rank...

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish... I unfortunately have to use deodorant because my natural body odour literally smells like cannabis. I get weird looks sometimes if I forget.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Eyyy a fellow weed guy

I generally don't smell like much but after sweating a bit, i smell like weed.

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[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I definitely have BO, but I can't smell my own, typically. however, I also just don't find the smell of sweat/BO particularly offensive.

I've started using not an antiperspirant, but a substance that acts like a deodorant, because my partner is VERY sensitive to smells and mine apparently sets her off pretty badly.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude... Maybe re read what you wrote and reflect on it?

There's a cliche of Internet folk with poor hygiene and it's something that should be addressed but it can be awkward for people to bring it up.

[–] BitsOfBeard@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you should read their comment again. Their partner took one for the team and now they are exploring products that will limit BO. We know nothing about their hygiene based on this comment. Some people start to smell the same day they come out the shower.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not against criticism, certainly the number of downvotes suggests I phrased it poorly or should have kept my views to myself.

I tried to present my views in a neutral manner without accusation. I used the term reflect because as you state I have no idea of the user's situation so it's for them to reflect.

I used a separate paragraph for the reference to hygiene in order to make a distinction between what I did and did not know. What I had hoped to raise was the distinction between hygiene and just applying masking products. But I didn't know how to communicate that without being more specific.

I apologise if I caused offense. None was intended. I'm some random person online, my views are my own, if I have caused offense I hope that can be easily dismissed as just another provocative voice online.

[–] BitsOfBeard@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I get where you are coming from and I agree that a lot of people suffer from BO that can be easily remedied by better hygiene. Some have never learned the proper way to shower and some are depressed. Then there are those with medical issues. I think part of what makes the topic of hygiene so awkward to broach is that unless you know they are not showering, calling them out can be less than helpful.

That said, don't fret about the downvotes. They really don't mean much. And my comment was not meant to be harsh. I use italics for emphasis, but not to be rude. I hope this exchange does not discourage you to make comments!

[–] Stowaway@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

Artificial scents make me break out, dry my skin out (in a bad way), gives me headaches, cause rashes, and/or cause excessive itching. Nickle, which is in many deodorants, causes rashes and chemical burns, literally had my neck bleed from a shit nickle necklace. Most deodorants will literally hurt me. Sure there are more "natural" ones, but they always feel gross or smell gross.

Sorry if it bothers you, but I'd rather not bleed from my arm pits.

Also people that use axe spray in small spaces, e.g. elevators, can get fucked.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

ITT: Stinky liars.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Normal body smell is not harmful. People need to get over this weird idea that we are not animals.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

if your stank stings my eyes I have no problem calling you an animal.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

This take sounds great until you're around someone that stinks

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anti-perspirant makes the rest of my body sweat a lot more as suddenly I can’t just use my pits to cool my body.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Antiperspirant is one thing. Very few people use one without a fragrance though. I would rather smell basically any normal body odor over awful perfume crap, personally.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Anti perspirant makes many people smell more. Not less

[–] Doom4535@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I usually wear deodorant (which generally has an antiperspirant in it), but there are days when I don't/haven't; in this limited experience I've noticed I would generally smell worse if I haven't been active. It seems like being up and moving around and sweating from 'labor' rather than sitting and sweating (not sure how to word that) is less likely to significantly smell. With all that said, I do try to shower after the gym or when I return inside after working on significant outdoor projects.

P.S., another data point to consider is the individual's age, as hormone levels (generally tied to age) could also influence perspiration

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Are you by chance stressed out when you're sitting and sweating? I think stress sweat smells worse.

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Antiperspirant simply doesn't work with my job. In the summer months, I generally sweat from every pore for 8 hours and then I get to go home. It would be like trying to dam a river with a stone.

Deodorant on the other hand I keep on me, as it has a tendency to wash off before the day is done.

Say what you want about your preferred method of avoiding body odor, but this one works for me. And as for those who are saying something about 'natural sweat before trying to cover it with anything', that was definitely not the case for me. I still remember getting pulled aside sometime towards the end of third grade and being told I had to do something about my body odor.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wear almost everyday unless I'm going nowhere. No I don't smell it til day 3 or 4.

Nose blindness is a thing.

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dont like the smell. antiperspirants come in a wide variety of scents and, to me, they all smell fake, off putting. i sweat, I shower. is normal

[–] N0fqy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy crap, there’s a kid at work…he’s really ripe. He’ll leave a room and you can still smell him 5 minutes later. He literally takes your breath away. How can he not smell himself???

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I make the distinction between Ripe and Stale.

Ripe can be fixed with deodorant. Stale just sticks to the air and ... oh god you can taste it.

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Ugh there was a guy like that at work. Indeed if he had walked by within 5min, you could tell as the pungence lingered in the air.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I stopped using it probably two years ago or so, I am in my mid 30s. Frankly, after your teenage years, you don’t notice it as much. Puberty makes those things a lot worse.

I’m not saying, I smell like sunshine and rainbows, but it’s not nearly as bad as it was, and it’s just one less thing to purchase/worry about. I practice good hygiene and I’m not generally up in somebody’s face. If I know it’s going to be a very sweaty day or I’m going to be in close proximity, I will occasionally bust it out, but that is basically once every 4 to 6 months at this point.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

I don't stink. People are generally surprised when I tell them I only use nothing or 'passive' deodorant.

[–] TDCN@feddit.dk 4 points 1 year ago

I don't use anything but water under my arms. I found that after a while my armpits stopped smelling as bad. Maybe I'm just lucky. It's all about bacteria. The sweat itself has no odor but the bacteria unde your arms feast on the sweat and starts producing smelly "farts". I found that over time I build up bacteria that doesn't smell and bacteria that actively remove any smel, so if I smell from stress sweat it'll dampen down quite a bit over the following hour or so. Treat your armpits like a sour dough in your fridge. It's a set of healthy bacteria you don't want to accidentally kill. Interesting enough if I use soap to wash every day my armpits starts smelling stronger again so for daily wash I basically just use a lot of water and rince each armpit for a solid 30 sec to a minute each rubbing with my hand. Soap kills the good bacteria too and makes it worse. If you use any only use a tiny little bit. I also found that shaving my armpits makes me smell so much more and it's uncomfortable too because I can feel the sweat drip down because it has nothing to cling too and cool you down which is exactly what it's ment to do, so I basically just let my hairs be and it helps me sweat less and smell less. I'm lucky I don't have that much hair but I'd assume it could be trimmed rather than shaved for many. There's a reason we have hairs under our arms and they do serve an Important function. For me gone are the days of yellowed t-shirts from deodorant and Gone are the days of allergy inducing perfume.

[–] WHARRGARBL 3 points 1 year ago

I stopped using deodorant when I moved from the Gulf Coast to the PNW mountains near BC. I just don’t sweat much in drier climates, but I do bathe or shower every day and I shave my armpits plus I use a deodorant soap. I think if I stopped shaving or didn’t shower every day, I’d probably still need deodorant?

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