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[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 87 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Glad to see that right-wing idiots have found yet another topic to be outraged by. I am not saying that lab meat is the best of solutions but it seems incrementally better than what we have today.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Incrementally better? If they can get lab grown meat to scale it would be far more ecologically and ethically sound than farm raised meat.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 23 points 10 months ago

I say that because:

  • Eating plants directly is always going to be more efficient than eating lab grown meat which was fed on plants (because there are going to be waste products).
  • Eating plants directly is also healthier. Cancers, heart attacks, blood pressure issues... some very common health issues partly stem from humans in industrialized nations eating way too many animal products. Lab grown meat won't magically be healthier.
  • There's still a chance that lab-grown meat doesn't pan out because it's hard to scale up.
  • Lab grown meat is going to be high-tech for a while. This gives a lot of power to a few select companies. Lab-meat shoppers are going to be dependent on a few startups and eventually a few multinationals which have bought up the startups.
  • This also means prices are going to be dictated by this oligopoly of companies, most of which need to serve investors. Often that's going to be tech investors who expect a lot of growth leading to a lot of profit.
[–] KaleDaddy 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Inb4 crazy vegan but id like to remind you all that the Animal Agriculture industry is one of the most environmentally destructive forces on the planet (cattle farming is the number one cause of deforestation)

The animal ag industry spends billions and billions lobbying for shit like this. Theyre just as evil as the oil companies. But they get a free pass because people like the product they make.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

Found the v... person paying attention.

[–] mihies@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

Cattle is also a huge source of global warming gases.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 months ago

We need any help we can get to net zero carbon emissions, and lab-grown meat is one of the many things that moves the needle in the right direction. Not everybody is going to ride a bicycle and switch to a vegan diet, so the more low-carbon alternatives we make available, the better.

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 10 months ago

This is dumb and will only lead to disputes with the EU as soon as they approve it.

And I guess nobody cares. The only purpose of banning something that's not yet available is to appease a few electors, nothing else.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 24 points 10 months ago

What an extremely stupid thing to do. Anything to pander to the farmers I guess...

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it just means that Italy will be woefully behind and will have to import quite a bit in a few decades when someone cracks the vat grown meat problem & its crazy cheap everywhere else.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

crazy cheap with healthier custom options. Beef is low fat as chicken or with good fats.

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 13 points 10 months ago

The possibility of lab grown meat in the future is such a nice excuse to keep exploiting animals and destroying the climate, keep it up for next 20 years!

[–] Whaler_Shaver@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Non molto bene, molto stupido

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 7 points 10 months ago

So Italy doing Italy things again...

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"Italy is the world's first country safe from the social and economic risks of synthetic food," said Agriculture Minister Francesco Lollobrigida.

The head of the big Coldiretti farmers' organisation, Ettore Prandini, at one point confronted two MPs from the opposition More Europe party, calling them "criminals" for opposing the ban on lab-grown meat with placards that condemned it as "anti-scientific and anti-Italian".

Centrist colleagues called on the farmers' lobby to apologise and the president of the lower house of parliament, Lorenzo Fontana, said that "differences of opinion should never descend into forms of violence".

He praised MPs for backing the new law, which came in response to a petition organised by the Coldiretti lobby group.

Critics point out there is nothing synthetic about lab-grown meat, as it is created by growing natural cells without genetic modification.

The law is also a blow for animal welfare groups, who have highlighted lab-made meat as a solution towards protecting the environment from carbon emissions.


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[–] Daevan@feddit.it 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] GiuEliNo@feddit.it 2 points 10 months ago

PiΓΉ o meno il mio stesso pensiero, condivido e sottoscrivo