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[–] simple@lemmy.mywire.xyz 114 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] Cavemanfreak@vlemmy.net 18 points 1 year ago

Haha jesus christ, the incompetence is unreal!

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[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

By post he means tweet, right? Google says average tweet length is only around 30 characters and average word length around 5 characters. So let's say it's 8 words with abbreviation which would take 2 seconds to read. If it's 4 seconds per tweet with scrolling then you can now only spend under an hour on Twitter without paying (not counting time spent replying). Good on him for fighting against social media addiction I guess.

[–] Thurgo@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got rate limited in 25 minutes by refreshing my Following feed and reading about people getting rate limited. I don't think it counts 600 unique tweets since I definitely reloaded the same tweets multiple times.

[–] myxi@feddit.nl 29 points 1 year ago

Dude is using 100% of his brain to find the best way to cut ad revenue.

[–] grinde@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

It's basically everything. Tweets, quoted tweets, replies, and even ads all count against the limit. I've seen people saying they hit the limit in under 10 minutes of scrolling. One person said they only managed to post two tweets before being limited.

And from what I understand spam bots are mostly unaffected since they're already rate limited for reads (but not posts).

[–] Casmael@geddit.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] lunarshot 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

wow, this is actually amazing.

You’d think a rapidly developing service like Lemmy might face restrictions like that due to resources but Twitter? Mismanagement beyond belief.

[–] rs5th 75 points 1 year ago

spez right now:

[–] bear@slrpnk.net 73 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How the fuck is Reddit closing their API behind a ridiculous paywall only the SECOND stupidest social media move of the day

[–] Casmael@geddit.social 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boy I sure picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue

[–] Cavemanfreak@vlemmy.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I picked the wrong day to quit amphetamines!

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[–] LittleKerr 20 points 1 year ago

The day is not over yet

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[–] marx2k 66 points 1 year ago

Fucking lol.

Keep punching yourself in the dick, elmo.

[–] interolivary 50 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wonder what's actually going on; I doubt it's about "scraping" and "manipulation"

[–] grinde@programming.dev 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is second-hand, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've seen mention of a bug that sometimes causes the same graphql query to be executed in an infinite loop (presumably they're async requests, so the browser wouldn't lock and the user wouldn't even notice).

So they may essentially be getting DDOS'd by their own users due to a bug on their end.

Edit: better info: https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639435788921057

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For my money I would bet the issue stems from abandoning Google server hosting, either from arrogance or being unable to afford it.

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[–] AChiTenshi@vlemmy.net 15 points 1 year ago

I'm suspect some of the backend is starting to fail. So the servers can't keep up with the demand.

Or it could be. It's no coincidence that scraping went way up when he started charging for the API.

Everyone with a brain knows that data will be retrieved somehow, it's do you want a lower cost API option or do you want them to scrape the whole webpage?

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[–] chickenwing@lemmy.film 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You know the fediverse isn't perfect but it seems more sustainable than these big social media companies that are not profitable. Reddit and Twitter make no real money but want to host everything on their website and I'm not entirely sure why. Image boards like 4chan purge all their data and the fediverse is spread out to a bunch of different servers. What's the point of keeping everything forever on one server? Do they really think that all that junk data is valuable?

Also why did reddit go from just hosting text to hosting images and videos? It used to be a link aggregation site now it's a never leave our borders site I don't understand how that's going to be profitable with how much hosting that data is going to cost.

Years ago I used to hit like 15 websites a day just for video game news and discussion then it became all reddit.

As Cory Doctorow termed it, it's the enshittification of the Internet - all for the sake of "shareholder value" It's a proper "can't see the wood for the trees" business

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[–] randombit@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m shocked, SHOCKED that killing the API would lead to web scraping! That was a completely unpredictable outcome.

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I for one am cheering its demise.

[–] Lazycog@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago

Let's hope for another twitter migration wave to mastodon / other fediverse platforms!

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 32 points 1 year ago

Limit rating your core audience in their primary task is completely batshit crazy. Thank fuck for mastodon.

[–] arcticpiecitylights 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So unless you pay Elon Musk $8/month, you can only load 600 tweets per day. That's some fucked up shit right there man.

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[–] tristanphips@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Traditional internet is killing itself

[–] chickenwing@lemmy.film 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just these monolithic social media companies really. And I don't really consider anything "web 2.0" to be traditional internet. Newgrounds was traditional internet.

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[–] Datas_Cat_Spot@startrek.website 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fediverse came just in time. I wouldn't have even heard about lemmy/kbin or mastodon if reddit hadn't shut down 3rd party apps.

They seem like they're trying to bleed a stone.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, Web 2.0 is killing itself. Turns out dipshit greedy pig boys aren't great at running social platforms

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[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would say the traditional internet was before the time of corporate ruled media, so in that case I'd say corporate internet is killing itself and and media is going back to traditional, at least with respect to the Fediverse.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the result of a deranged fascist being born with an apartheid silver spoon in his mouth.

[–] MikeHfuhruhurr 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably an emerald spoon in his case.

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[–] ram@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

Simply put this is the most amazing thing the twit did to Twitter since forcing himself as King Twit. Even better than when he tried to back out of it but couldn't because he'd already signed for it.

[–] aja@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

Wow that’s my Twitter and Reddit account deleted within 24 hours

[–] Kaldo 27 points 1 year ago

Please please please let this be the breaking point at which big online personalities switch to mastodon, or at least start using those crossposting tools. That's the only thing I miss from twitter and something RSS cant replace

[–] atheos@lemmy.atheos.org 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon will be happy to know that my Twitter consumption has fallen to zero a day.

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[–] Sharmat 23 points 1 year ago
[–] gelberhut@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Limit READIND is something new. What a creative move!

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Talk about killing the goose that laid golden eggs...

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"Temporary Limits"

[–] Ignacio 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, let's see. My 1920x1080 monitor and my full window browser can render 3 or 4 posts without scrolling, just logging in on Twitter. Because it's a new account, that means I have 296 posts left to read.

I click on one of those 4 initial posts, and without scrolling, I read 3 or 4 replies. I have 292 posts left to read. And even those replies don't bring me anything meaningful, they're just trolls doing troll things. 4 posts wasted.

And so on and so on. Wonderful, Mr. Free Speech Absolutist.

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[–] relevants@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

300 posts is what, maybe 10 minutes of scrolling if you don't actually engage with much of the content..? Brilliant idea.

[–] moonw0man 15 points 1 year ago

He is so unbelievably dumb?? πŸ˜…

Brilliant, make the service literally unusable, lets see how it plays out

[–] Spaenny@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

You really can’t make this stuff up, it’s beyond my head how someone can make those choices. But I mean advertisers already ditched Twitter long ago, so why not squeeze the last money out of it that you can get.

[–] EliasChao@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you punish your users for using your fucking site? It’s kinda sad how Elon is ruining Twitter.

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