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Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.

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[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 65 points 1 year ago (7 children)

These threads are odd to me, considering how many people call all communists tankies. The word seems to be used by anarchists, conservatives, communists, anti-communists, and more, and every person has a slightly different definition.

Half the people here could consider the other half to be the tankies everyone is mad at.

To be clear this isn't me saying "be nice to the tankies" this is me saying "the overuse of this word is confusing the shit out of me."

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but I understand "tankie" to mean leftists who think Soviet/Maoist/vanguard-party styles of Communist revolution/rule were good, actually, to the point of denying any bad things they did/do as "Western propaganda".

Given the red scare in the US, our ability as a whole to use any sort of leftist political labels accurately across the population is basically non-existent, so I do understand the frustration by both tankies and non-tankie leftists about how the term gets used lately, especially in produce circles on social media.

But again maybe that's just me. I don't know if I would consider myself a communist, but I do consider myself as a yet undetermined variety of socialist, if that helps at all.

[–] wewbull@iusearchlinux.fyi 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...because none of those groups are Tankies and they are all unified against Tankies.

Tankies aren't socialists or communists (not that those two things are the same either). They are the purist ideologues of communism, where compromise is defeat. Rampant in telling you why you're wrong, and why only the purest form of communism will bring nirvana. All without understanding the consequences of what they propose.

Even the Communists don't want them on their side.

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

I think you kinda missed my point. Sure, socialists and communists don't like tankies, but conservatives think the socialists and communists who don't like tankies are tankies. They aren't "unified against tankies", they don't agree who, what, and where "tankies" are.

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

196 is one of the greatest ~~subs~~ communities

ya'll should be proud. Thank you for adding a little queer fun to my normal CIS life

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 year ago

Based AF

Fuck tankies

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Hey everyone, just a reminder:

  • Yes Nazis are also bad, we don't have Nazis pop up anywhere near as often as Tankies
  • We remove and ban Nazis too
  • We're aware of Lemmy's main code writers being ML's, and it's not great.
  • Please report any bigot bullshit, or fascist/tankie dogwhistles.
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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think most of you need to worry way less about sounding sufficiently the "right kind" of leftist and focus more on promoting leftism through action. More than half the "tankie" discourse is, at best, a needless distraction from actual progress. Lose your buzzwords and stop the ideological purity pissing contest and actually put in the work in your communities instead, goddamn.

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[–] floppade@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Eh this argues that we even have a democracy that is functional enough to undermine in the first place, and I reject that premise.

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[–] fritz@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Bro what, if we can stop leftist infighting for one fucking minute that would be great. We all have 90% of the same goals so how about we work on that and not build artificial walls to those to the left of us. Also being pro western „democracy“ is cringe.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk, tankies are pro-genocide. That doesn't mesh very well with most people's sensibilities.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

All tankies seem to want is a strongman dictator and to hate the US. I don't care about the US but I'm definitely opposed to having a strongman dictator. Like if there was a group that wanted 90% of what I did but also wants to form an ethnostate, I would not work with that group.

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[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

what democracy?

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

[...]

In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule — at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

something like 70% of Americans want universal healthcare and yet it remains politically impossible.

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[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

It's funny that everyone is up in arms about this post but the literal sticky post says no tankies

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

let's be honest, they should be removed from society

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (18 children)

You are aware that the .ml doesn't stand for machine learning, right?

[–] atocci@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people made an account there right in the beginning of the Reddit fiasco before there were any viable alternative instances, like I did. Looking at the age of the account, I'm guessing that's what they did too.

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[–] cnnrduncan 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's the TLD for the country of Mali

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[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

Loving to see tankies come out of the woodwork to seethe and troll at this

[–] frontporchtreat@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swear almost every American election cycle, some weird word will start popping up everywhere. like how all the trump supporters started saying cuck out of nowhere in 2015-2016

[–] lemillionsocks 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is more a lemmy thing. Tankie is an older word but like you dont usually run into stalinists in the wild too much. The Lemmy creators and one of the biggest instances when the site was still small was a communist one promoting not just like the ideal of communism but legit stalinism.

As a result there was a lot of weird very pro russia pro china pushback and whataboutisms on the platform in the early days before the number of non stalinist users drowned them out

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agree, but to me they're no different from any other genocide denying pieces of shit. If you are a NATO apologist that sees what happened to Iraq or what is currently happening to Gaza as any less abhorrent, you are just as bad as someone apologizing for Russia or the USSR.

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Do you have nothing better to post?

[–] r9seng@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure anyone knows what a tankie is.

Apparently saying any country other than the US should take a turn at world leadership is a tankie opinion.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

the only tankie with rights

lori petty from the movie tank girl

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[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I still don't understand what a tankie is

Edit: From what I gathered, they're essentially authoritarian communists

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[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Unfortunately, the only way to kick tankies out of 196 is to get 196 out of Lemmy. Because Lemmy is being developed by two tankies themselves, with a third one about to join. And because despite being defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad, lemmy.ml is still a free roam place for tankies from those two cesspool places. So, either defederate yourselves from lemmy.ml (nobody would do that), or fork lemmy into a new clean place (not impossible, but difficult to perform), or do as beehaw will do soon.

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[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 13 points 1 year ago
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