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Pretend the $20 million is guaranteed, and if anything will increase slightly over time.

What problems could be significantly improved for $20 million?

(I am dreaming of winning the $1.55 billion Powerball drawling. Then taking the lumpsum, posting taxes, investing, and spending 4% each and every year. I understand that the actual may be more, or less than the started amount.)

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[–] neptune@dmv.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Start a charity foundation, but pay poor people in your community to lead it, instead of local millionaires.

Oh dang, that's a good idea!

[–] room_raccoon@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would get a really nice house with a big fancy kitchen and then continue being a hermit, except I'd do a lot more drugs

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So just a typical lottery winner.

[–] room_raccoon@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Sure. I never claimed to be special or anything.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I came into an unspendable amount of cash, I would make it my full time job to research things to donate to. Charities, or any charitable organizations, medical research, housing the homeless, feeding/infrastructure/sanitation for poor countries, open source projects, etc. But I don't want to donate to just anyone. I don't want to donate to those shitty fake charities that use their donations to line the pockets of their top people. That's why I would spend a considerabe amount of time researching these groups.

The way I see it, after I buy all the things I want, a house, a fancy car, etc. I couldn't possibly spend more than $1M a year on my family. That gives me $19M a year to donate. I don't really care to keep a cent more.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

You are probably spot-on. While I am able to do some things, a charity that is already doing things will likely be better at it.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago

$20 million is a lot, but not an infinite amount. As the cash flow is close to guaranteed, one could get into long term projects and hire staff.

Paying total compensation of $100K, one could hope ~200 people. No money left for offices though.

I would consider increasing the local standard of living by buying a few minimum wage type businesses and over paying a little, ~5%. I would hope that this causes an employee shortage and increases wages. Continue raising wages at a rate the other businesses can keep up with. My reasoning is that I can only hire so many people, but increasing the prevalent wages will benefit far more people.

I also think I could open a at-cost medical clinic. I don't know what that would cost, but I bet someone will tell me really quickly once I have the money.

I don't think I would have the money to:

  • Set up a new bus system.
  • Setup district heating for a town

I feel like I am playing "small ball" and not grasping the opportunities.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd donate a quarter for 4 years to my city to create a biking network, with some smaller portion donated after the 4 years for maintenance.

I'd almost certainly help the local schools get up to date teaching materials and try to supplement their income by literally just gifting them money. There's only around 1000 teachers in my city, so it wouldn't be too hard to do that.

Obviously myself a senator and representative.

Then idk. Get a personal chef and personal trainer?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Giving to the teachers is great. I had looked up my school system's budget and got discouraged, but a few 10's of thousands each as gifts to the teachers and staff is more affordable.

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After taking care of myself, friends and family, and what not I would start acquiring land that I would donate to my community for affordable housing and other community projects with the condition that I get to name everything built on it. All streets, schools, libraries, etc will be named by me.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aight, but you have to give us some examples of names.

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Treadful Regional Hospital

[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago

Donate to some privacy related projects like grapheneos and signal

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Quit work and take lighter loads in school.

Buy a nice house in Maine right on the water.

Buy a supercar, and all the motorcycles I could ever want.

Go on crazy adventures like an Appalachian trail thru-hike.

All this would be less than 10% of my yearly income. The other 90% would go to charity, helping the homeless and bolstering free and open source software.

[–] Xel@mujico.org 9 points 1 year ago

I'd go to universities all over the world and ask teachers and students to show me their projects and ideas to help society. There are some incredibly smart people out there that could change the world if we helped them.

[–] bizzle@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$19,999,950 worth of cocaine

Two $25 sex workers

[–] Luke_Fartnocker@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are you finding $25 sex workers in this economy? If you could supply names and phone numbers, it would help.

[–] bizzle@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Davenport, Iowa. And the $25 ones are considered high class.

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would identify people in need that are renting a home and taking good care of it. Then I would buy the home and sell it to them for $1.

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this is pie in the sky, but look into how habitat for humanity does this. You would be causing a lot of trouble for those families.

Tax burdens for the purchase, because you're essentially giving them a lot of money. Kind of like how the people Opera gave cars to couldn't always afford the taxes and ended up having to sell the car.

Also, predatory lenders look for people in that situation and trick them into getting loans on the house to get "free" cash from the equity and then the people just immediately lose their house and end up in the same place.

There are ways to protect them from all of the above, just need a little more than just "give house to good people"

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it's probably smarter to purchase the homes under a trust and then rent them to low-income people for the cost of owning the home.

The stuff you can't escape.

The property taxes. The insurance. Things like that.

Throw in a maintenance fund, broken down into a group fund average with a company on retainer and the salary of three people to manage and maintain all of the properties, collect the minimal rent, manage tenants paperwork and tax reporting and maintenance requests, all the hassle work so that you don't have to.

Depending on where you are even 5 million a year worth of homes could be anywhere between 10 and 50 houses every single year added to the group.

And depending where you are and how that works out that would mean home rental prices somewhere in the $400 to $900 a month price, well below the market average, and well below what these poor people would have to spend to maintain the housing and the associated taxes and insurance fees anyway.

No surprise $15,000 roof jobs. No surprise $5,000 HVAC jobs. No surprise $800 dishwasher replacements.

You could probably also work out a deal with a maintenance company or a contractor who is on board with doing this kind of work for charities sake and pass the savings on to your renters.

All of that maintained and optimized by a fairly simple payment, and the only downside to that is that it would not directly boost the renters wealth via property value increase.

If you then put say like a 5-year cap on how long somebody could rent your property at cost (extending that optionally until their youngest kid turns 21), then that should givethe renters plenty enough time to sort out their financial situations and to accumulate wealth to purchase their own homes or to get themselves into a better position in life, and then you could pass that savings onto the next person.

If you wanted to help these people build their wealth then you could also do something like sell the houses when they move out and give them the value increase after taxes that the house accumulated, or considering that we're in a bit of a housing bubble right now you could also tack on an extra $100 or $200 a month to their rental payments and then refund that money plus any interests that it generated along with any maintenance fee overages that their payments have accumulated during their stay.

The former is a little more risky but could result in a larger payout for your tenants, and the latter costs more for your tenants but how many people get to leave a 5-year rental agreement with a bonus $10,000 to put towards their own house?

[–] June@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Quit my job

Pay off and renovate my house.

Buy a new car, something nice but not over the top.

Set up services for my neighborhood to drag the people round me out of poverty and ensure every kid gets the chance to get a good education.

Ensure all housing in my neighborhood is up to code and in good shape/safe to be lived in.

Pay off the debt of every person in my neighborhood, prioritizing medical and student debt.

Buy the people I love the things they need, set up trusts for their kids, pay off their debt, help them financially without enabling them into their bad habits.

Feels like that should probably reach $20m fairly quickly.

Become a landlord that makes housing actually accessible driving down prices and providing safe places for people in my neighborhood to live.

[–] jaackf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whilst I am very anti landlord, that last point is interesting.

Say, if someone had enough money to buy out thousands of houses and made them cheapest around, undercutting everyone, then sold them to the occupants if they wanted to buy... Would that somehow fix the renting crisis we're in today?

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[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All mine and my family debts paid. Immediate and extended. Friends too. Then a life of leisure followed by paying the debts of the strangers I meet along the way.

[–] pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That first parts is the best way to get harassed to hell and back. You don't really want to give money to everyone, they'll come back to beg some more, and get angry/violent/dangerous when you won't anymore.

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

There's the magic of not giving a shit after. But good point, it's entirely possible to do this to some extent as an anonymous benefactor. And at $20mil annually guaranteed income I could always hire someone to do it for me.

Also, I'd be buying remote wilderness and building a self sustaining off grid homestead and not telling most people how to find me. I don't like visitors.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Probably live on a million- maybe 2- and spend most of my time giving the rest away.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Well, since I don’t need a lot in life, Iβ€˜d keep a mil to invest and mostly live off the dividends. Maybe two if everything sucks.

The rest goes to educating youth. It’s literally the key to curing cancer, colonizing mars and eradicating inequality and fascism.

Have a good day.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

First of all, you're right to take the lump sum, definitely take the lump sum.

Then... There are some things I'd definitely want to spend on up front, like housing in particular. In the long run, the money would pay my property taxes, fund my clothing hobby, support parties with my friends, etc. I'd probably get a private chef to cook good, nutritious meals for me regularly. A personal trainer and a private gym in my home. And I'd travel more.

This advice is important:

https://np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/whats_the_happiest_5word_sentence_you_could_hear/chb4v05/

[–] shiveyarbles 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell nobody. Enjoy the security of having options.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would pay off my mortgage, and buy a car that isn't it electrical hazard on wheels.

Once that is done that I think I would set myself up as one of those prefab home manufacturing companies. They're pretty good houses albeit architecturally uninteresting, and they solve the housing shortage problem relatively cheaply.

Also I'm going to steal my next door neighbor's motorcycle and drive it into a lake, in order to stop him and his terrible midlife crisis habit of starting his engine at 4:00 in the morning and leaving it idling for 4 hours. Of course I could do that now, but if I wait until I'm rich then it'll hardly even be a crime.

Lol at the hardly a crime, very true but with that kind of money, you just pay someone else to do it.

[–] emmie@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably give milion to someone that really needs it in person and to see how they react.

Money is just such an overrated thing to pursue. Sure you can try to drown your worries in it, try to escape but the happiness is always inside

[–] Tutunkommon 5 points 1 year ago

Buy some congress people and get them to vote for things like public transport, universal Healthcare, etc.

US-centric, obviously

[–] StealThisComment@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. Quit my job
  2. Buy a Porsche
  3. Give the rest to Cory Doctorow
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Sooo... you're going to be jobless, with an expensive car and none of the actual money.

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[–] Rocky60@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

After buying my fortress of solitude, and making sure my family is set for generations, I think it would be fun to donate money to random people who are struggling.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

One thing I'd love to do is eat out more, and tip just absurd amounts. $40 burgers and fries, and great service? Here's a $40k cash tip.

Yeah, one thing I'd love to do is throw cash around at the service industry.

[–] EmrysOfTheValley 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BlakeClass guide to lottery winnings His second comment is what to do that first is the warning.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

That one is a classic.

[–] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I’d first spend it on lawyers. Someone wanna copy paste that reddit post here so we can link lemmy going forward on this question in the future

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First, I would find out who I need to pay to find people for jobs I need done. I hate dealing with people. Also, I suck at knowing who to call.

Then, I would get someone to rebuild my house, better, stronger, faster. My house is nice, but it has some major issues. Mold problems I can't fix. Lousy insulation. Floors that let us hear everything going on between levels. A ridiculously small master bathroom.

More importantly, I would pay for a better education for my kids. I homeschool for various reasons (via videos and on a curriculum), and while their education is solid enough, my daughter could use someone better than myself for subjects where she struggles.

Once everything is set up with a lawyer, I would set aside money for close family members.

Oh, and I would hire a maid and a chef for my house. I like cooking, but I also like not needing to cook. And who enjoys cleaning?

My wife would surely either pay for landscaping for our yard, or she would buy a boatload of plants and do it herself. Probably somewhere in between; we've got a rocky yard that no amount of personal labor will make manageable, but I think she enjoys the planting.

[–] MayonnaiseArch 3 points 1 year ago

I'd spend it on a bounty, anybody who reduces the number of billionaires gets some.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tell no one. Start some form of charitable institution anonymously to divert the majority to. Try not to become an idle leech or get murdered.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the first thing I would do would be to rent an RV and just go driving around the country and up into Canada and see all the different states and all the different sites and things to see and get used to what it's going to be like to travel constantly and not be nailed down anywhere.

I feel like if I spent 6 months doing that before I made any dramatic decisions about what else to do that would help get my head into the right spot.

Of course I would first pay off all of my debts and I would probably reach out to all of my friends and family and give them a nice little surprise cash, something like $500,000.

I think I would make them sign a notarized contract that says that they agree that if there is any past grievance they have against me they consider that debt paid and forgiven with the $500,000 and agree that any future grievances will be handled by binding arbitration. The number one cause of unhappiness for lottery winners is family members suing them for money.

I don't think I've done anything to anyone that they would want to sue me for but at the same time it probably wouldn't hurt just to cover my bases.

It's not like they can't get a successful lawsuit against me with binding arbitration, all that would do is prevent an emotional jury from handing out crazy multi hundred million dollar verdicts against me because I didn't show up to the family christmas or something thinking that I can afford it since I won over a billion dollars in the lottery.

But aside from that yeah, 6 months in an RV with nothing to do but to go and see the Grand canyon and to travel to all the different cities that I want to travel to and seeing the sites and partaking in the local foods and events and just buying anything I want to buy as long as I can carry it around with me in the RV.

Oh yeah I'd probably call up my insurance agency and get a $10 million umbrella policy just in case.

[–] Ransom@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't understand why you're getting downvoted when this was literally the first thought I had when reading the post title. I'd genuinely be stressed if I randomly got that kind of money

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

The huge jackpot is one reason not to play. People get crazy for $1,000. A billion is "goodbye whatever life you had" money, regardless of you want to or not.

[–] Ransom@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

The concept of having $20MM in my lifetime, never mind actually spending that much annually, is insane.

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