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The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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[–] matchtaste 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hosting a conference for women and non-binary people...in Florida?

[–] TheSambassador 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot of these conferences have contracts with conference venues that kinda locks them in for hosting the conference at that location multiple years in a row.

[–] that_one_guy 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How many years back do we have to go before Florida would be a good idea for a conference like this?

[–] alex@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago

Well, less than 10 years ago, Fort Lauderdale wanted to be the US capital of trans tourists, so maybe not that long.

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[–] Thelsim 15 points 2 years ago (7 children)

This is just disgraceful. I understand times are tough, but to basically ruin an event just for your own personal gains. It's just not right.
Is there any way this can be prevented in the future?

[–] jarfil 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'd need to know more. A lot of people in tech are assigned male at birth, but identify as either non-binary or trans. There is also another lot of toxic "tech bros", but unless this was specifically a "woman is only one that can give birth" event, or the ones sneaking in were of the toxic kind, I otherwise don't see the problem.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These guys were toxic. Apparently women were getting shoved out of the way, and men were jumping over escalators to get in line first, cutting in front of people, and generally being entitled jerks.

https://www.404media.co/grace-hopper-celebration-conference-anita-b-2023/

[–] jarfil 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That sounds awful. Sniping the tickets then reselling them, is an extra low. Sounds like the organizers messed up things big time, and the worst came out of the woodwork to take advantage.

[–] Thelsim 4 points 2 years ago

You've got a point, and individually I wouldn't dare to question someone's gender (I barely have a grip on my own :)
All I have is the article provided. A little searching did get me to this article which details some very awful behavior though.
I guess it's more that the purpose for this entire event, to give (trans)women and non-binary people opportunities to establish a career in tech and to celebrate them, is being subverted. Space and time was limited and the extra influx of men (who clearly weren't there for the main purpose but to job hunt) put a big strain on both.
There's not much you can do about it, but that doesn't make it right.

[–] ConstableJelly 8 points 2 years ago

Agreed. Desperation or entitlement (the admission fee makes me think the latter)? Either way, I don't think I could imagine being at a level of either to intrude like that.

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[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

>Promotes self id for nonbinary

>Event is for nonbinary people

>Get upset when people identify as nonbinary and attend the event

I'm not sure I'm seeing why people are upset?

[–] superflippy 11 points 2 years ago

People are upset because a lot of masc-presenting people crowded the job fair, cut in line, and shoved people out of the way. Others who were attending expected the conference to be a place safe from that sort of aggression & it wasn’t.

[–] Lapislazuli@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

The people attending where mostly just cis men not non binary.

I don't know how you get the idea that suddenly lots of people start identifying as non binary when the event is open for men.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

Next time this happens simply slaughter the invaders and bath in their blood.

[–] NoraReed 9 points 2 years ago

people love making shit like this the problem of non-binary people who are assumed to be men and trans women who are assumed to be men instead of just kicking people who behave badly by pushing and shoving from the event. it really has played into the division that transphobes are trying to sow.

[–] mlburgess 7 points 2 years ago

$1,298 for the Orlando event 😱

[–] PurpleCat@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

A free event I went to this year had the same thing happen. They didn't have room for everyone because so many men showed up.