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Since my favorite reddit app came to Lemmy I'm really keen on getting more people into the fediverse to pump up the volume of content around here. Are there any initiatives that we can assist to get folks onboard?

I had my wife join, and she likes it, but laments the slow pace of new material in the communities.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I actually think Lemmy needs more work before it grows much bigger. The mod tools are really lackluster currently. And that was a big reason people wanted to leave Reddit.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's tough to sell some of the niche communities without proper spoiler tagging, too. Need something easier to use that works on all platforms.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Proper spoiler tagging is important

I Jerboa uses this format

: : : spoiler Title

Without the spaces between the colons, this is just to show what it looks like.

: : :

Title

This is with the spaces removed

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All I want is the ability to block inbox replies when I say something controversial.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago

That would be nice, but for now you could just mark all as read without reading them.

I completely agree. I'm personally holding off on heavy promotion of this platform until we hit 1.0. If people join too early and are turned off by the lack of polish, they may not come back after it's fixed.

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[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

laments the slow pace of new material in the communities.

Participation. We need more of it. Like...a lot more of it.

Lurkers shouldn't lurk, and people should give others the benefit of the doubt far more often than they ever did on Reddit, if they ever did at all. Make Lemmy a community where engagement is valuable and fun and actually useful.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

OC brings people. Adopt a community you wish was bigger and make a personal commitment to post to it daily.

For bonus points convince two other people to adopt their own community. We'll pyramid scheme this sucker with content.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So I was wishing that r/korea woukd be a thing on lemmy, I found an instance hosted in Korea and subscribed. I started posting, now after like 3 month it's full of only my own posts, each gets 3-7 upvotes and every 5th gets a comment from someone outside of Korea ^^.

I feel that if I'm the only one posting anyway I perhaps should bring it to my own instance which I have controll over and could moderate if it became necessary. I have no idea who is the admin of that one.

!korea@lemmy.funami.tech

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need a better site to link to than join-lemmy.org. It should concisely pitch lemmy to everyday users and suggest an instance for them to sign up at. Don't get into the weeds about federation or choosing instances or selecting apps. Just select a sane default and point people to it. Rotate defaults to avoid overloading a given instance or making it too powerful.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make valuable original content here that's not found elsewhere, post and comment thoughtfully as much as possible(No. Pun. Chains). Don't try to turn this place into reddit, be better than reddit.

People who are on reddit that wanted to come here right now has already done so, so it's important to drew in people who has never used reddit before here instead of always waiting for reddit to do something stupid.

Also less celeb gossip please, need a place where I can get away from that on the Internet.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the last point should be ignored, the whole point of lemmy is to have as many communties as possible and subscribe to the ones you like. you can defederate ones you dont like

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I respectfully disagree. The goal should always be to foster high quality discussion over raw quantity of comment and artificial engagement and the devs have said as much in their documentation of Lemmy's design.

Otherwise, this place would be no different from 9gag or imgur comment sections, much less reddit.

[–] Devdogg@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

From Margot Robbie. Got it.

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[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't focus on looking for ways to find new members. Focus on ways to make people who find the fediverse want to stay. Accomplish that by putting something here that they like to see and want to see again.

When they join the Fediverse, or when they come to visit and consider joining, they're going to search for the stuff they want to see. They might look for memes, but more likely, they're going to look for their hobbies. If the only hobbies reflected here are gaming and programming and the fediverse itself, most people are not going to want to stay, the userbase is going to develop an even heavier bias towards certain types of people, it will become more alienating to other types of people, and it will stagnate.

Make an effort to post about and comment about other things. Cooking, movies, TV, sports, fashion, hair, plants, decor, architecture, history, religion, travel, a nearby city or town. Join those communities. Remember, when you see a cool article about nutrition, or a cool video guide to Copenhagen that you think people will enjoy, share it here. Post it, even if the community is small and you don't think people will care, because we need to seed communities with something. This is what I've been doing in a few communities, but mostly in !malefashionadvice. It's been frustrating, I haven't really been able to build the community up yet, but it's okay.

While we're at it, don't alienate people by posting, commenting about, or upvoting things that... suck. Keep all forms of bigotry at the door. If you're a hardcore libertarian or tankie or militant atheist... I'm not going to tell you to stop believing what you believe, but try to cool it, like 10%? Please? Nobody wants you breathing down their throats with extremism.

And... I've done this too, but let's make sure that we're not focusing too much on meta posts. They can be worthwhile, but they also are not what new people want to see.

[–] Spasmolytic@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I dig. I'll make an effort to post in my hobby subs (woodworking and 3d printing) to get some good shit in there. πŸ˜‰

Good comments in here about the need for better mod tools etc. Not something I normally think about myself.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't agree more. A focus on new members is a terrible idea. Just focus on making Lemmy better.

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not-so-secret of Reddit success (vs other link aggregators) was that they allowed NSFW content. Set up a separate opt-in corner of Fediverse to post that stuff and a big chunk of reddit will migrate over.

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[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • Publish useful content on lemmy. Link to that content on other social media sites
  • Anytime you see a negative article about reddit particularly on reddit, remind users this will continue to get worse, link them to lemmy and explain what it is/how to join.
  • Donate to lemmy development to improve UX.
[–] jazir5@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Community grouping. It would massively increase the available content, and make lemmy much easier to browse.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CW: Unpopular opinion?

I've looked back at a few reddit threads, and I'm thankful most of those users aren't coming here. I'm alright with the current level of content and participation. What little there is here is still better than most of what's on r/all, and it's not like we want to attract advertisers and self-promoting accounts.

[–] Spasmolytic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The discourse I've observed thus far has felt more honest, less pugnacious than on Reddit. Obviously I've seen a drop in the bucket, but anyway, it's good so far.

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[–] gianni@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There should be an instance with an actual registered organization behind it - privacy policy & all to back up its legitimacy. Without this, Lemmy is a hard sell for a lot of people who don't want to just hand off their information to a person who may or may not be doing certain things with it.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think that's fair, yeah. Explaining that some person I don't know runs the server doesn't quite sound the same as saying this instance is run by company XY

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[–] itsmaxyd@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

posting more content. sharing lemmy posts with friends

[–] mild_deviation@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Linking to Lemmy image posts is a bad experience. This use case needs to be much better because content is the main way that non-Lemmy users can be motivated to join Lemmy. I tried to share this with a friend yesterday, and had to explain that the image I actually wanted them to see is locked behind a tiny thumbnail, and that the full size Good Place Janet someone commented is not what I wanted them to see (at least not without the context of the posted image).

There's no way to open a shared Lemmy link in your client of choice. You can manually add URLs on Android, but you have to do that for every Lemmy instance, so that's not going to fly. I don't know if there's any solution at all on iOS.

There's not a good way to control what content I see. It's essentially either "everything" or "a single community". On Reddit, you could already have multiple communities about the same topic on Reddit, but usually one was dominant, and you had multireddits to save you if there truly are a few good related subreddits. Now on Lemmy, you multiply that problem by N instances, and subtract the multireddit feature. This situation simply must be made better somehow.

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[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relay for Reddit stopped working for me today. I won't pay for content I partly create, so my shift will be final to Lemmy, unless my social media addiction finds another way.

Thing is, what Reddit still has, is the available history of content. If Lemmy has new topics and new content, it will at one point become second nature to also add "Lemmy" to a search query. And at some point hopefully without Reddit ever crossing the mind. For now it's a slow and painful process as contribution is the only way to push Lemmy.

So whatever you do, contribute as much as possible. Then we can do it. I'd say push the bigger communities first, the smaller will follow, like how it was with early Reddit.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 1 year ago

I also stopped using Reddit forever today, since Relay stopped working.

But I feel like there will never be a way like searching on Google for thing I'm interested in + Lemmy.

The problem is that content is duplicated on many instances, and those instances may even don't have "Lemmy" in their websites

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop shitting all over people just because they don't agree with you on everything

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you build it, they will come.

It's the reason I've been motivated to post as much as I do, both in broader communities and a handful of niche ones that I want to see grow.

If you've thought about posting/commenting but just haven't yet, take the plunge! I never used to post on reddit at all, and I've been pretty active since joining Lemmy.

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[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Which reddit app came to Lemmy?

[–] Mobius@dmv.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm over here now thanks to Boost.

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Ok. Never heard of it. I am an Apollo refugee.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago
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Most people are familiar with the reddit app. There should be a "reddit for lemmy" app that is as terrible as the reddit app

[–] Reil 6 points 1 year ago

Content rate needs to go up, I agree, but the biggest source of content in comparable social media came from something I'd like to avoid: power users.

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago

Let it happen organically. It will happen in waves.

That's the struggle at first, getting a deluge of users that keep people both entertained, AND posting content.

Unfortunately I don't think we've reached that number of users yet and it throws us into a vicious cycle of losing users who were also posters.

I'm not sure how to grow it on our end, other than continuing to contribute to the communities, but I do know that if Reddit keeps following Elon's business decisions, they may end up losing many users as well.

[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.ninja 5 points 1 year ago

Actually, the people who would only bother with the fediverse if it had more content are exactly the people I don't want here.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Give it time. The platform exploded in popularity in a few months, let us [current users] let the last batch of newcomers to settle in before calling more folks in. Plus we don't even have much control over it, at the end of the day Lemmy grows as Reddit does stupid shit that makes it lose trust with its userbase.

[–] Digital_man@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

It will be slower but I think we will get there.

I don’t think Lemmy will turn into β€œmarketing platform” that Reddit is now . And I’m thankful for that!

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Since most can't help on the technical side of things, you can really help with creating communities. Hopefully the scaled sort helps a lot of issues with smaller communities getting buried.

[–] peterhing@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still confused how it works. I subscribe to a channel, but all it is is updates about the channel, no content. Looks like I need to go to their website to see the content (which doesn't seem right)

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[–] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Need to find a new gallowboob. Better if it’s an actual group of users sharing the same id and pumping out quality content

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