- Since you can't sharpen hardened saws they are basically disposable. If you are just trying out the hobby or aren't going to be making somewhat heavy use of a saw then it's probably fine. If you are in it for the long haul then getting a saw you can sharpen will save money over time.
- I don't think I've heard of unsharpenable chisels before. The saws that can't be sharpened usually call themselves impulse sharpened or something. Are these chisels referred to with the same terminology?
- I think dovetail saws are just especially fine and thin. I don't think you need one specifically unless you are doing a lot of small, fine dovetails.
- Lots of people advocate for the number 5 plane but l, like Paul Sellers find a number 4 more comfortable for most things. I have a 70s Stanley number 4 and a Veritas 5 1/2. I also had a Stanley number 5. The 5 is quite heavy which can be nice if you want to utilize its mass to really throw it through some thick shavings or rough cutting. But for lighter work and just general smoothing, edging, and chamfering the number 4 is just very pleasant. Not too heavy or ungainly, and easy to maneuver. The 5 has its place but I wouldn't want to use it for most jobs unless I needed the length for flattening something or the mass to help me muscle through something.
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Thank you that’s reassuring. The chisels say “Hardened, tempered chrome carbon-steel” but not impulse, so I think they’ll be fine. The other thing I’m trying to find is a manual hand brace drill but the only new one I could find was from France and about $160. I’m thinking of just finding an okay one on eBay and seeing how it does.
If you have any other suggestions for whetstone liquid or wood glue, it would definitely save me some searches.
I bought diamond stones for sharpening and just used windex or whatever cheap offbrand stuff I could find and it worked well. I'm not sure what one would use with traditional sharpening stones.
For glue just standard yellow wood glue is fine for most purposes (Lepage brand I think?). Titebond is good too though more expensive, and they have different varieties if you need water proof glue or whatever.
I never did get a hand brace. I think Lee Valley Tools might sell one but yeah it was expensive and for most purposes I'm fine with just my electric drill. For those traditional braces I think they also require a matching bit since they don't have a standard chuck so watch out for that I guess. Brace and bit always seemed cool to me but I could never justify the expense of getting into one, nor did I ever come across a good deal on a used one that had a bit as well.
I haven’t come across using Windex, but I guess it’s worth a try.
I see the Lee Valley one and yeah it’s still kind of expensive. There are quite a few on eBay that are affordable. I’ll have to check out the chuck situation on it though.
Thanks again for you insight.
An antique or vintage brace may have a chuck intended for square-shanked bits, but there are chuck adapters available that should allow you to use hex-shanked bits (to the best of my knowledge, anyway—I'm also just building up my toolkit, so lots of reading but little practical experience). Or track down some of the old bits.
https://www.letoolman.com/antique---vintage-tools.html lists "Vintage Stanley brace & bits $10. each with a free bit" in his horribly messy inventory. Might be worth emailing to ask?
Yeah I see that about the chuck now. And not all of the listings show what chuck it has. The website looks like it has a few good things to pick through but the photo of 11 hand braces with the caption “some are sold” just made me chuckle.
I don't think he ever rephotographs anything or removes it from the site. A mess, like I said. I suspect he's a retiree running a part-time business out of his home.
Windex is one of those Paul sellers tips/suggestions :)
Look for used tools at garage sales and flea markets. The only people who should be buying $160 braces are rich retirees. I built a pretty great collection of tools in a year or so of hitting sales pretty regularly, and you end up learning a lot about what different tools are like, and how they work, and for pretty cheap. There's still tons of quality pieces out there from Disston, Stanley, etc.