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Social status (in my own words) is the idea that a person has a relative social worth in a certain context. For example in a class room a teacher has a high social status and therefore must be listened to. On the other hand, if that same teacher was stopped by the police for speeding, they would not have a relatively low status compared to the police officer and should therefore listen to the police officer.

Basically you are expected to treat some people with more deference than others based upon status signifiers like what role they have and what clothing they are wearing or how they speak or act towards to you.

I guess you could say it is a widely held belief that some people are better or more important than others.

How would you approach explaining that idea to a child? When is age would be too soon? When would it make sense to explain that it is a person's social status is not always justified (i.e cops, bosses, parents)? Traditionally, I guess they would learn it by trial and error but I don't necessarily think they would learn the idea that it is often abused to control others in a school setting since authority figures generally don't want others questioning them.

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really need to explain this to a child?

I would only if they ask me, or if I see a clear and worrying behavioral problem. Children should do as teachers say, within reason- if the teacher is abusing their position in any way, I don't see how knowing social status helps a child. It's more important they know their rights.

To answer the age part of your question at least, if the child understands what kings and princesses are about (very popular in children's stories and play pretends, I'm not a royalist) then they are old enough to understand what social status is imo.

[–] centof@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you really need to explain this to a child?

I never said that you do. I asked how you could explain it.

I think it would be very helpful to help a kid understand why some behaviors are only okay in certain contexts. IE It's okay for a parent to yell at a kid but if a kid yells back they get in trouble. If a kid can understand that authority is not always justified, then it can help them by ensuring they don't blindly follow authority figures when they are wrong or acting maliciously.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Sure, that's why there is so much talk about fairness, and I mentioned it's more important they know their rights. It's easier to explain a child they need to be treated fairly by everyone, and/or that nobody has the right to touch their body if they don't want to for example, than to go about explaining abuse of authority.

If you are after an ELI5 on social status I'd say it's more like a ranking of likeability and authority. The more authority you hold, the higher your status, and the same goes for being likeable. If nobody likes you and you have no authority over anyone... or anything, then you are going to be very low in status.

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[–] OnopordumAcanthium@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd differentiate between "social status" and "authority".

Social status = social hierachy/worth inside a group, e.g. a class where you have "losers" and popular kids. Or inside a shop where sometimes employees serve people very differently regarding their appearance (Client with much money? Client looking poor?).

Authority = rolls given by system/government/laws, e.g. Police that have authority over citizens

The first is more invisible and vague, while the second is something that is tangible.

Thats at least my take :D

Also, your kid might already know these concepts, at least unconsciously. I'd try to teach them modesty and repaying kindness with kindness and not weighting the social status too much but also consider the personality. The most popular kids in class aren't the kindest in most cases.

[–] TiphaineRupa@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Just show them a picture of a homeless person next to a beautiful celebrity and ask them with whom they'd like to hang out with.
Depending on their age they probably are already familiar with the concept without realizing it

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

It's so complex and nuanced that if you try to explain your kid will inevitably run headlong into an exception in spectacular fashion.

It takes a life time to learn social status and queues.

Explain specific situations and leave it at that

[–] Radioactrev@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I would start by asking my question over at explainlikeimfive@lemmy.world

[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“If you can’t explain it to a five year old, you don’t actually understand it yourself”

No offense intended, because I couldn’t explain this to an adult either.

[–] centof@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is part of why I asked it. I want to be able to understand it and hopefully teach it to my nieces and nephews better.

Might want to try talking about this with their parents instead then