Well… not enough to stop it. Both are the most popular in their respective primaries. By far. It’s it even close.
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It shouldn’t be shocking that most people want someone better.
what if we had a president who was actually going to have to live with the consequences of what they chose to do?
Honestly I could do without the gerontocracy. Those plotting the course of the future should have a stake in it, you know? What the fuck does an 80-year-old care if they fuck up the future? They're not going to be around to face the consequences.
But will they all have a unified vote in the preliminaries?
The impressive part is that we have two less popular candidates than Trump and Hillary. And that election had people wishing for a meteor to end the earth.
It's already happening and there's nothing that can be done to stop it: https://www.twitch.tv/trumporbiden2024
Well there already almost a dozen republican candidates, we just need to collectively back one or two that aren’t Trump. Does anyone have any thoughts on William Hurd who just announced? I don’t know much about him.
Are there any promising Democrats that are running against Biden?
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Marianne Williamson, and to a lesser extent RFK Jr are going to be ignored by outlets with the biggest audiences. If the gestalt of the Democratic Establishment is that there's no primary, the MSM isn't going to do a thing for candidates running against Biden from the left. Williamson polls at 5%-9% and RFK 10%-15% yet MSM will give all the coverage to GOP candidates who are polling under 3% and not Dem challengers.
I guess you could argue that Williamson is coming from the left, but RFK sure as heck isn’t.
We aren’t missing out on the next great president between those two if the MSM isn’t covering them as serious candidates, because the truth is they aren’t.
The media definitely won't help, but both of them are pretty weak contenders either way.
RFK Jr. is a strident antivaxxer, which is a nonstarter for many people, especially those that vote in Democratic primaries. A good chunk of his press is arguably off the back of the Kennedy name, rather than the merits of his policies.
Williamson is (or at least was) a self-help guru, which could cause people to see her as untrustworthy. And unlike RFK, she doesn't have a political career or established name to draw on, just vaguely progressive "vibes".
I don't think a more established figure like Sanders would be doing well in the polls right now, either. We're a year out from the actual primaries, people's thoughts on them are vague, and they're more likely to just go with the default of Biden if asked. But RFK and Williamson don't have particularly strong cases beyond being non-Biden choices.
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so long as young people generally don't care to vote, people who have no stake in the future will be the only choices.
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When when does what Americans want actually effect what America does? Not holding my breath.
Both parties work for the same owners(wanting or not) so i truly don't give a fuck about a Trump-Biden rematch.
GTFO with your both parties are the same bullshit.
Is capitalism and the elite ruling class controlling our society? In a lot of ways, yes. Do the Democratic Party leaders do bad things? Sure.
But the Republican party is actively engaged in taking away people's rights and freedoms. They prop up unabashed fascists.
Both parties are not the fucking same. And it's this kind of whataboutism that got Trump elected in the first place.
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