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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by MDFL@programming.dev to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev
 

EDIT: I didn't realize the anger this would bring out of people. It was supposed to be a funny meme based on recent real-life situations I've encountered, not an attack on the EU.

I appreciate the effort of the EU cookie laws. The practice of them just doesn't live up to the theory of the law. Shady companies are always going to find a way to be shady.

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[–] BurnedDonutHole@lemmy.ml 135 points 1 year ago

Any website that does that I just close the tab.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 109 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I refuse to go to sites that do this, I also refuse to go to sites that block adblock...and specially the sites that detect and block private browsing, that one shouldn't even be a thing

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sites that block adblock - I have network based filtering I'm not going to take the time to specifically figure out what ad providers you're using (which is probably that same as everyone else) just to unblock your shitty site.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LOL, I also use DNS based filtering soooo I feel your pain.

[–] WaLLy3K@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hilariously, I find the Pi-hole feature "disable for 5 seconds" often works because it'll be down for long enough to load the page but not the ads.

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[–] hairyballs@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why the fuck would they prevent private browsing? I use that a lot to be sure the session is closed correctly.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's lots of newspaper sites in the US, that do this. They'll be like "wanna use private browsing, make an account, or go visit from normal browsing." Idk why they do it but they do. Apparently there are discrepancies in the way browsers handle persistent storage features between private and non-private browsing that allow for detection

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I'd guess they just want to keep track of what you read and how many articles. You still can wipe that information from your browser but private browsing makes it more convenient so they ban it

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago

Cool. One less website to visit. Not like there is a shortage.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure breaking your website with no cookies is against the rules, actually. It's either serve the EU with GDPR-compliance or GTFO entirely.

Yeah, you could still just break the law, but as usual there's a cost to that one way or the other.

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 year ago

this. and honestly I wish more websites followed the "serve under gdpr or don't have a European marker". A random blog once wasn't available in the EU because of GDPR. And you know what? It's better than them violating GDPR and the EU doing nothing.

[–] peter@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Tons of companies break the cookie law already, but enforcement seems to be rare

[–] akulium@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Doesn't enforcement work by letting competitors sue you if you don't follow the rules for these things?

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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

It's more about the big boys. If they act in a way that breaks the GDPR, now the EU has a stick to hit them with.

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 59 points 1 year ago

Your meme is funny, but people genuinely use these arguments to be against sensible EU laws, hence the response I imagine.

[–] SloganLessons@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah being unable to open… checks notes local news websites from the US has been a real deal breaker

[–] MDFL@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have run into this recently on several non-US, non-news sites. I have actually never run into it on US local news sites, so I don't know what you're on about.

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[–] kubica@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Sometimes its relieving when you go to do something and you find out that you have already finished, lol.

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[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That's gotta be quite some website you visited, if it didn't load at all without cookies. As someone from Germany, who mostly rejects every sites cookies, except for the essential ones most of the time, but sometimes outright rejects all cookies, I've never encountered a website that refused to load upon doing that.

Not defending any webpages that do do that, just contributing my personal experience.

Also: this for chrome or this for fiefrerfx

[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Also from Germany. Some american news and media sites do that.

[–] PopularUsername@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

I've seen Italian sites that will put up a pay wall if you refuse the cookies.

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

some other just block access from the eu completely. (not a news site, but applebee's does this)

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Makes sense, I don't use any of them, at all. I'm pretty sure there's a place where you can report such webpages for doing that though, though I don't know where at the moment.

Edit: possibly this one

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Netzpolitik.de checked Germany's top 100 sites. Not many offer a single click rejection of cookies. Many of them only offer a paid 'pure abo' to disable tracking.

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/9GFZM/8/ (German)

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[–] hdnsmbt@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago

That's fine. People who don't care about cookies will accept them anyway and those who do care about cookies will know not to visit that site anymore.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like people would have responded to this meme better if you didn't depict the European Union as an NPC

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[–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So far I’ve only seen small US newspaper who did this. Is anyone angry about this?

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[–] sederx@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

That's literally the point though...

[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 18 points 1 year ago

I generally agree with the statment under that image and it's certainly a funny meme but also Illegal, sadly the enforcment is a joke but that's not really the laws fault!

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

Nearly all of these are illegal, but sadly there is little enforcement when it comes to this. (Tracking must be opt-in, not opt-out. Ignoring a banner must be interpreted as declining. Opting out must be a simple option, not navigating a complex and misleading menus. The users choice applies to any form of tracking, not just cookies...)

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