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[–] koreth@lemm.ee 75 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"We'll wait a few more minutes for person X to join, then get the meeting started," like the other ten people who made the effort to show up on time deserve to be punished with extra meeting time for being responsible. Bonus points if this causes the meeting to run a few minutes long.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm totally cool with being late sometimes, but I know various folks where it'd be an exception, if they're not late, because they have meetings back-to-back all day long.

Always makes me feel like the official meeting start should be 5 minutes after or something, but I know that those folks aren't late for the fun of it. They'd definitely overrun those 5 minutes, if they knew they had them.

[–] koreth@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

My frustration is less with the people who are late and more with the meeting host making the rest of the attendees sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting for the late person. Unless the late person's presence is the point of the meeting, just get started and let them catch up.

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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Any microsoft application. Constant bugs, crashes and a tendency to break everything if you accidentally use them in any other way than microsoft intended.

Also, ads in a fucking operation system? I don't see how anyone can find that acceptable.

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think MIUI was its pioneer. Even the settings app had ads.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

At least they use that to sell you the hardware for cheap. Microsoft doesn't provide anything of value like that. In fact, they charge people for the OS and then have the audacity to add ads.

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[–] FredericChopin_@feddit.uk 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like the other person said edge is the only approved browser and they don’t like Firefox.

We are software developers and they don’t like Firefox.

Also, they don’t allow wearing headphones and it’s awfully quite sometimes and I have ADHD and have to fill that noise by talking.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depending on where you live it and the job you do, you may be possible to get an exception to the rule against wearing headphones.

If you’re in the US or UK, I know it would be your right to request reasonable accommodation for ADHD - either under the ADA or the Equality Act.

Obviously if there’s a good reason to disallow headphones (for example, if there’s some danger that you wouldn’t be able to hear) then this wouldn’t help. But if it’s just the company being controlling, you can probably get an exception.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People having video calls at their desks. We have soundproof booths and conference rooms but no, people will just talk loudly in the open space area. It's like people talking on the phone on a bus. Hearing only one side of the conversation is super distracting. Sometimes two people sitting next to each other will be on the same video call. I guess more people are bothered but not enough to do something about it.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I sometimes send them quotes from their own conversation on chat.

Passive aggressive ftw 😁

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

That's not actually passive aggressive, that's just being sassy. The term "passive aggressive" refers to something completely different than what most people think.

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Open offices are a mistake.

Having to reserve conference rooms to have a semblance of quietude is a terrible system. I don't miss that shit.

We had a loud talkative guy at my place. Fucking deep voice that he was projecting like he was on a stage or something. It was not possible to have a conversation near him when he was on Zoom. We barely spoke in the open area anyway, but some people just wouldn't shup up. I can still hear their stupid voice when I think about it.

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[–] iminahurry@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

When people message with a "hi" or "hello" and then say nothing more till I reply.

It annoys the hell out of me. Like, why can't you just say what you want. It wastes so much of my time and mental energy to switch back and forth while I wait for your reply after replying to your utterly useless hello.

[–] fishr@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago
[–] koreth@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Especially infuriating when the other person is in a very different time zone. I once worked on a project with a partner company in a time zone 10 hours ahead of mine and it was common for trivial things to take days purely because the other person insisted on typing "Hi," waiting for my "Hi, what's up?" response (which they didn't see until the next day since our hours didn't overlap), and then replying with their question, which I didn't see until my next day. Answering the actual question often took like 30 seconds, but in the meantime two or three days had gone by.

I came to believe they were doing it on purpose so they could constantly slack off and tell their boss they were blocked waiting for my answer.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's worse, after you "hi" them back, some people (looking at you project managers) just ducking call without any explanation. Drives me nuts

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[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t work at the moment, but here is a list of stuff I’m glad to be away from:

  • That guy over there that grunts and coughs and clears his throat every 37 seconds.
  • Having ten minute standup meetings every day, that take at least 45 minutes every day and could have been replaced by looking at the status page in the wiki.
  • That other guy over there that raises his voice and yells and carries on every time he is on the phone, completely unaware that his phone has a microphone, and that anyone else exists
  • People who eat stinky stuff for lunch at their desk, chewing with their mouth open while watching the football at full volume. Go and use the lunch room, you inconsiderate fuck.
  • my boss over in the next cubicle who yells out someone’s name, expecting them to be there, and then yells a series of instructions whether they are there or not. I’m trying to think, can’t you just get up and walk all the way over to another cubicle to talk at a reasonable volume, like a normal person?
  • The woman that just started, sitting in the next cubicle, that reeks of foul perfume. I know when she arrives and leaves by the smog cloud, the revolting stench that follows her around the office, and the trail of people vomiting and struggling to breathe after she goes past. I tried to do the right thing and talk to her and she conveniently can’t speak English, unaware that I can hear her on the phone speaking flawlessly.
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[–] spitz@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

My co-workers.

[–] icanred@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't schedule a &$&% meeting during lunchtime without serving up lunch to us!

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

My lunch time is me time. I'd prefer no lunch meetings ever. That's my walking time.

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[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Teams! It literally never works on Linux and you cannot change a single thing about it. I'm so tired of having to tell people that today my teams cannot share shit, which worked flawlessly yesterday.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Teams is garbage. This comes from someone who used it on windows, both on the app and web versions.

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[–] Ranjeliq@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Teams is shit. I use it at work on Windows, and it's still shit.
Searching something in the chat? Complete dogshit. Half the times it just straight up doesn't work, the rest of the times it shows only the message where searched word is present and not the point in discussion when this message happened.
Keybinds. Non-customisable. Keybinds. Who in their right mind does that?! I once heard that keybind customisation would confuse "normies", which is complete moot. So-called "normies" won't go to the settings (or at least, to keybinds) anyway and will be either satisfied with defaults or won't use them at all.
It also cannot restrict how many notifications it displays in the corner - so when things are getting spicier at work, it spams whole right side of your screen (gods help you if you were working on the laptop with small screen atm, cause getting shit done will be impossible). So your 2 options will be to mute everything or continue getting spammed. And then the whole point that it is even worse on Linux. And it's web version is crap, too. And that it is a bloted, laggy mess that is more in my way when I work than helps me.
Rant over, I guess?

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[–] uint8_t 6 points 1 year ago

I miss Teams. It was so bad, that anytime I forgot something, I was able to blame teams and no one questioned it. Since then I changed jobs, so can't do it anymore.

[–] Dave_r@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago

We have 3 (three. Three!!) redundant monitoring and alerting systems and have yet to detect the issues routinely found by our customers. Its not because we didn't detect them, it's because we have so many false positives we stopped looking (but still run the monitors).

Uuuuuugffhhhhhj

[–] SecretPancake@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The moderator of a daily web-meeting saying "Who wants to go first?".

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Followed by either:

  • nobody speaking
  • everybody speaking

...BECAUSE THERE'S A LAG AND BODY LANGUAGE DOESN'T EXIST ONLINE.

Seriously people, don't ask everyone. Ask individuals.

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[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The lights at my previous workplace. They were super bright, depressing, fluorescent lights, and even though we had windows with natural light coming thru, they'd have the overhead lights on at full blast. Not only was it a massive waste of electricity, the lights actually hurt my eyes, and made me hate my workplace. I loved the WFH phase during covid since I could just rely on natural light - and was so much more productive and in a better mood. Unfortunately they started calling us back into the office with 3 compulsory days, and that was the last straw which made me quit my job.

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[–] korthrun@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An absolute lack of consideration in regards to chat etiquette. Man now that I think about it, it's chat threads/notification in particular.

People who carry on side conversations in threads. You're giving everyone else who has participated in the thread the choice of "disable notifications for this thread and risk missing something relevant come back around, or get a notification for every single side message they're sending". Especially when someone is chiming in like 4 hours later. "Glad you guys got this sorted out". Yes, all 12 of us on-call people in this thread needed to get that message direct to our phones at 3a.m. 4 hours after the outage has been resolved. Thanks for that. Very fucking helpful. High value communication.

People who will not use threads. I don't need a new fucking notification every 20 seconds because you guys are deciding to have a chat about e-bikes. Make a goddamn thread or use a room made for chit chat, we're all on the same team, we're all in on-call positions. I'm paid to respond when this thing makes a noise. I am NOT comfortable muting the team channel.

It's addressed elsewhere in these comments, but +1 to folks who just message you "hi". Go get stabbed.

On the topic of notification fatigue:

People who will just not finish a thought.

Before hitting their enter button.

So they end up like doing this thing.

Where you get a notification every 15 seconds, because they are just absolutely addicted.

To their enter key I mean.

They are addicted to thier enter key.

their*

Oh.

I guess I could have just edited that message instead of sending the correction with the thing.

Asterisk? Asterisx? I forget what it's called.

LOL.

Anyway, that thing.

Also, when I'm helping you I am 100% going to stop what I am doing every time I get a message and read the message. There's no way for me to know whether or not you're messaging me "Oh never mind, I had a typo" or "here is more relevant info to make your work easier". That message may very well have immediate impact on what I'm doing, and affect the course I take. Of course I'm going to stop what I'm doing to read it. So maybe don't wait 5 minutes to send me the message "k" after I kindly, thoughtfully provide you with the status update "I think it's the fizzibob, let me verify in the logs real quick" of my own volition so that you are not only aware of what's going on, but don't have any question as to whether or not your question is still being looked at.

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not using threads is fucking driving me insane too.

Also when somebody just says "hi" and waits. Don't you fucking dare to do that. Type in what you want so I can decide if I want to reveal that I'm currently actually there and want to deal with your bullshit. Sometimes I just don't write back. And then 3 days later they ask me in the office whether I saw their message. And I say yes, saw that, I just thought that was all because you haven't continued.

Also you don't have to say "Hi Golem" every single time when you start to ask something on the same day. Sometimes even 5 times a day. Geez. Just say what you want and be done with it.

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[–] miaapancake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Toxic Positivity: "Everything is always great" and the unspoken rule to never talk about your issues.
  • Mental health issues not being taken seriously and/or treatment being forced on you
  • Alcohol culture: "if we haven't had a beer together, i don't know you"
  • meetings. As a programmer i can be super productive, but then i'll be interrupted by a meeting... and that meeting is an hour long... completely stripping my concentration and now i gotta get it back up...
  • retro-meetings ... talking about what has been done in the last week... and what we liked and what we hated... i never know what to say "yeah i finished shit" or "i hate working with this shit" but then you have to elaborate....
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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everything: from 8am to 5pm I'm a steaming ball of anger that struggles to act polite while planning small acts of office terrorism.

I've got a lot of small pet peeves
like:

  • A general lack of awareness in workplace safety practices
  • People listening and sending audio messages when they could type instead
  • People doing personal conference calls without a headset
  • When they say "can you please grab that thing on my desk?" and their desk is a post-earthquake library scenario
    and many others...
but the thing that bugs me the most is the general absence of people that "just do their job".
There are a lot of people that do fuck-all and a lot of people that work their lives off and both of those groups expect you to walk at their pace. I'd like to meet more people in the middle.
[–] LogarithmicCamel@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Having to relogin every two weeks with two-factor authentication. Everything is a MS Office document, in particular ridiculous spreadsheets. Everyone writes in acronyms that they assume everyone else knows. Even though there is always a lot of new staff, every email assumes everyone has been working there forever. ("It's that time of the year again! You need to complete your GRD before week 5 of the COG and send it to the OSYN. Probably you are already an expert in completing these forms after so many years, but if you need instructions, please go to our IDRN and enter your ICRJ.")

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

God I wish I only had to use MFA once every two weeks!

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[–] xuniL@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slow computers and awful cheap Keyboards

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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mandatory webcam on calls/meetings. I get that it works for team building when half the developers are at home at any given time, but it exhausts me in meetings.

You sit there with nothing to say/do while you listen, constantly having to look forward and pay attention. Then your jaw starts to feel tense, but you can't just open your mouth or move around too much.

Total torture for 60+ minute meetings. In my previous company we had the webcams always off, so I could relax or if it was only talking with no presentation even sit on my couch away from the PC.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not sure how much of this pressure is from your company or self-driven, but I always keep my webcam on and I don’t give a shit about sitting straight or looking attentive or whatever. Half the time I’m fucking around with stuff in the background. Nobody has ever said anything about it.

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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

In recent weeks: Not having a plan.

Our manager was on vacation for a few weeks and so everyone was kind of just doing whatever they wanted. We're a software dev team, so one colleague was working on UI, another colleague was working on authentication and a third worked on some showcase.

Now our manager is back and we did planning and it's like, that showcase isn't relevant until the end of the next milestone, and we're not going to need the backend, nor its UI+authentication for the next two milestones.
Only really my work is directly relevant, because I did the incredible strategy of working towards the bare minimum we need.

I kind of don't care, if we're inefficient. It's not my job to manage the place. But I hate not knowing what I should work towards.

[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago

We have these breaking news tv screens all over the lunch room. I absolutely hate it, can I please enjoy my lunch in peace?

[–] nyonax@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

The temperature. It's always just cold enough in the building that I need to wear a jacket. Also the people who feel the need to eat stinky foods at their desk.

[–] preppietechie@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

That we all accept that working our butts off for at least 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, with only around 2 weeks of vacation a year in the hopes that we can save just enough to retire at 65+ is normal. The social contract is broken, and everyone except the top 1% of earners is paying the price.

[–] Smeagol666@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One place I worked had end of shift meetings every day for the transition between third and first shift. First shift was supposed to get there 15 minutes early, but hardly ever did. This was a stand-up meeting at the end of an 8 hour shift. Look assholes, I'm tired and I wanna go home.Your disrespect of my time isn't helping my attitude toward this shit-hole company. Also, apparently, they didn't need to do this for second shift, because, you know, first shift is tired and wants to leave on time. Imagine that. I ended up quitting when they tacked on extra hours for us to work at the last minute during the week of Thanksgiving, so that effectively we'd still end up working 40 hours. What's the fucking point of holidays if you're just going to make us work more hours anyway?

[–] Myrhial@discuss.online 9 points 1 year ago

2 mandatory office days even for consultants. If you want to be at the office, fine. But don't make everyone be because of some so-called fairness. Catering to some imaginary average person isn't fair, it's hurting everyone a little or a lot. Alas since I'm working via an agency, I got to follow client directives. Luckily I have good rapport with both my agency and my project team lead so I can kinda toe the line.

Also the inability or rather unwillingness of my fellow devs to follow protocol. Ticket not approved by business? You don't touch it. Yet the geniuses I work with went total yolo mode on a project I'm not on. So I wasn't there to remind them and now they're upset they got told off they spent a week on tickets that they were asked to discuss with the business. And that they aren't getting praise for their efficiency. It's government work, not your hobby project. That's a week of budget spent on work they may need to reverse because they didn't even put it on a branch. Maybe when they hear it from higher up they'll listen because I really get the impression when it comes from me it is seen as my personal opinion. No, I just figured out early how the office politics work and play the game I'm paid for. I voice my opinion plenty but here it actually aligns with the organisation expectations.

[–] Rocky60@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy who gives safety meetings says “um” between every phrase

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

"We're good people, and our goals are noble. Therefore, rules don't apply to us."

(Proceeds to break important laws)

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