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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 90 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I don't want to sound like an incel, and I like eating vag/salad as much as the next guy, but imagine this image with the genders reversed

[–] Franklin@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

IMO either party doing this is fine as long as it's discussed and within the comfort bounds of the people in the relationship.

I think the problem is an expectation when there has been no discussion about whether or not it's within someone's limits.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I have no issue with oral sex between consenting adults. But this meme would not be as well received if the genders were reversed. It's hard to even imagine someone posting "always be there for your man in a time of crisis" with the woman going down on the guy.

[–] Franklin@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't really mind it the other way around as long as there's no implied use of force or manipulation.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe "consenting" is key here.

The reason why it's taboo if the genders were reversed is because there is a long and well documented history of non-consent when genders are reversed.

Was there non-consent where gals are forcing guys? Very likely. However what evidence I've seen suggests this is dwarfed by guys forcing gals.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I suppose if you ignore every single bit of the last few hundred years worth of context, it would be hard to understand why people might be ok with this, but not necessarily the reverse.

Fortunately that context is available to you, so what I have trouble understanding is why you're not accounting for that. Maybe you could elaborate, or perhaps do some perspective taking on why historically oppressed groups have certain sensitivities that privileged groups do not have. You might even come to realize that treating everyone exactly the same after not doing so for a very long time doesn't come across as terribly fair. Because, you know, it isn't.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've conceded my point that it would be insensitive if we reversed the genders. So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.

And here I'm going to respectfully disagree. I do not agree with your claim that being a part of a more historically oppressed group comes with a different set of standards for behavior. This is like saying its fine for obese people to make fun of skinny people--but not vice versa--because the obese people have more often been marginalized in society. We wouldn't accept that reasoning in the case of body type and we also shouldn't accept it in the case of gender.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.

I think what you actually are aiming at is the question: Why is this meme upvoted? And why do you think the meme with reversed genders wouldn't be?

I bet you want to tell us.

[–] Yoru@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

im gonna post a reversed version of this im really curious what'll happen

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes i imagined it, very nice. Whats the next step?

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago

I agree that it would look quite different with the genders reversed. However, gender equality is not like mathematical equality, where every situation needs to be reversible.

Women have traditionally been less sex-positive and less dominant, which many consider indicators of a lack of true gender equality, so a progressive community will celebrate a reversal of that.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing wrong with a consenting partner

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago

Yes, but not quite the point I was making

[–] Batman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the problem is the assumption that the man is consenting. A meme is not a place to go for realistic depictions of sex, though. I think this one is playing off that to create conflict/engagement.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

What would be the issue then? 2 consenting people can show each other what they want sexually, no matter the gender

[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be fine in a porn comic, but provoke a scandal in a "regular" memes community

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

In my mind she has a cock. She also is built like an amazon, so she can just lift me up and flip me round for some standing 69. Nice

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unless you have proof, this claim of yours is simply a fantasy. In fact, you can find plenty of spaces online where memes like this one, but with the genders reversed, are shared and well liked and sometimes they even mean what they depict unironically.

Actually, this very posts proofs you wrong, since yours and the comment "Bonk" (which just means "too horny") are the top liked comments.

It really does seem like you just want to soapbox an opinion.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

You can find spaces online for literally any position you like.

I concede your point that my comment got upvoted but 1) I didn't know how many upvotes it would get before I commented and 2) The post itself is still heavily upvoted. I'm just offering a dissenting opinion to the post's popularity; I'm not on a soapbox.

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[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I ain't never dined at the Y, I am by any reasonable definition an incel..

But geez dude, lighten up.

[–] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Wizarded@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago

We never have boners because of horny jail!

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aren't memes supposed to be funny? This just looks like a shitty Tumblr post.

[–] Thcgrasscity@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Haha 450 up 55 down, so 8 times as many people think its funny then dont.

Haha 3 times as many people dislike this comment

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, we can see the upvote / downvote ratio?

[–] HeneryHawk@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Some apps show it. Jebroa does, for example

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Jebroa sounds like a really muscular type of mouse lol

Spoiler

A bit like the muscular mouse in demon slayer

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I'm calling it Jebroa now (even if I'm actually using Voyager currently (until Thunder gets fixed)).

[–] Yoru@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

this reminds me how people were calling Gumball's sister "Anna Yeast"

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

It is funny. Might not be your humor but others find it funny

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whatever scant humor this comic possessed, has been irretrievably destroyed by the pedants in the comments.

[–] Thcgrasscity@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was really not expecting so much, i sent it to the lady im dating she laughed so i posted it. Like most comments ive ever gotten on a meme were 6.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago

cunning linguists they are not.

[–] erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While we're on the topic. Everybody needs to read a book about pleasuring their partners.

She comes first

Her guide to going down

I'm sure you can get more focused content for your particular situation if you looked for it, but don't assume you know what You're doing. Read and make the world a better place.

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ultimate Guide to Cunnilingus, is also a good one.

She comes first, second, third, fourth and fifth if my neck and her heart can take the strain.

[–] TheFriendlyArtificer 4 points 1 year ago

Damn my spelling!

I've been trying to satisfy my spouse by learning stealthy puns in Proto-Indo European. So now I'm a cunning linguist.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the hell is wrong with people in this comment section? yeah if the genders were reversed blah blah blah be pragmatic and enjoy that pussy ffs.

[–] platypus@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I'm available for objectification. Anyone?... Anyone?

My blocklist has grown by leaps and bounds though, so there's that.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Panel 3: titty eye contact, he accepts his fate lol

[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Is there a community for horny nsfw memes that isn’t actually porn? Asking for a friend of course.

[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago
[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would be there for my lady...

If i had one!

[–] Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I feel you brother

[–] FatTony@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

More importantly. Does that guy have a beard or is that just part of his hair?

[–] BadPoopSmell@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I think I have to poop

[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where's the original from? Asking for a friend

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