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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Yeah I get it, everything fucking sucks and sometimes we get a win. I've been here for 30 minutes tops and I can't remember half of the headlines I've read, can you? There's like no engagement on any of the posts here and there's probably a dozen aggregators that post the same shit you're looking at.

Shit that was written to nickel and dime you somehow, or lower down the food chain in an academic format for people actually paid to solve problems.

Leave the articles to the climate scientists and policy makers: This instance needs a place for people who get shit done, people who wanna change themselves and their immediate communities. We don't have enough of that, anywhere.

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[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're complaining that a tiny website designed for anonymously sharing news articles and memes is mostly sharing news articles and memes anonymously.

What you want is not found online.

[–] aes@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If that's really what's up then I'm out, that sounds pathetic. Also I'm going to pretend you can't read and thought I was looking for change online. I said we need a place for ppl who are ready to change, or are changing.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

There are many more communities on this instance that need active participants. If you think this one has too many mainstream news articles (which is a fair point) don't subscribe to it, or even block it from your feed.

However, looking at the subscriber count of this community it seems to work well as an entry point for people from other Lemmy instances to get to know ours, and I think that is a good thing overall.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

Currently @silence7 is basicly filling this instance with some life. Thanks for that btw. I would like to read stuff like that and if you see some please post it here. I might like to read it. The issue is that this is a small community and it is kind of hard to find the good stuff. Thats just how it is.

What you're looking for is to get organized. You won't find that on an online forum. Join a local anarchist or vegan organization, or hell even a labor union. Read books to help decolonize your mind and support your local indigenous action groups. Bring the fight to the politicians and the robber barons that are destroying the planet in the name of exponential and unending growth. There's a lot one can do to help fight, but none of that happens here on an (honestly) obscure internet forum.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

a place for people who get shit done, people who wanna change themselves and their immediate communities.

Sounds like what you're looking for is people to meet with, organize and do actions. Locally, offline.

I think that's generally the way to go.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree, OP. There ought to be rather than news boards, more boards on Activism, Direct Action. I don't actually know what activism can do for climate change in the U.S. right now. But if there was a community that non-stop posted Laws, Bills, and really substantial changes, and also activist news like stories about Greta that would be a start?

There's an organization called Strong Towns that talks about how to organize bike lane and other urbanist proposals for American towns. I wonder if that is our way in to activism on climate change.

There are also orgs. that check the receipts on companies that are polluting and those that aren't, companies that are greenwashing with carbon credits and carbon offsets. We could get a real climate boycott list made, and make demands about what those other companies need to do.

The Green Infrastructure act or whatever in America is written in such a way that it makes sense for every new factory or tower building to take advantage of totally renewable energy. They will if communities make them, otherwise fossil fuel lobbyists will slow down this progress.

I have heard very strong dogma saying asking people to be vegan for climate reasons is gatekeeping, but I wonder if this is a way in. If good rhetoric can be made, good cookbooks sent their way - perhaps this would activate liberals.

Overall Solarpunk as a movement is super dreamy and makes persuasive art and design for climate-robust city and town design. Seeing solarpunk art really helped click it into place in my brain that the way we design the world is exacerbating the problem.

I guess what I'm saying is community boards are better suited to collaborative content creation than news. We can do activism by making persuasive art and rhetoric on and offline, and we can highlight rallies and marches just as quickly as we can highlight news.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The big challenge with direct action and online is that systems like lemmy record a lot of what you do. When you're planning direct action, it tends to be illegal, and creating a record of your plans like this is a really bad idea.

If you're going to do that, set up a group chat on Signal with disappearing messages enabled and keep the number of people involved to no more than seven or eight to limit the risk of infiltration.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I would never do anything illegal! I meant more beginner friendly direvt action such as protests, phone banking, emailing reps. And telling people about worrying bills. I'm no Just Stop Oil activist. Still you have a great point, even protest planning needs to be kept out of the public eye.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

That sounds like standard activism in a democracy. Not direct action.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

I'd be happy to share more about that, but it mostly takes organizing. And that means getting people together. Some zoom maybe, but a lot of in-person activism. Showing up at city council meetings. Talking with people you know, and getting them to join you.

You can join an organized group but the reality is that most communities don't have one, and you'll need to start it up.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean there are other communities for activism on this instance. I don't think it's crazy that this one has turned towards discussing news. I think if you're looking for direct activism you may be better off in a community like !solarpunk@slrpnk.net

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Subbed. But guess what? I see a lot of news there too, sprinkled with art discussion.