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Hi friends,

I'm new to Lemmy but I think I like where it is heading in general. I would like to ask, do you have any specific apps used for ?

As a community that seems more focused on decentralized platforms, I thought this could spike up an interesting discussion

I have been using mainly Viber and FB messenger. I did try to convince friends and family to move over to simpleXchat, as it seems the most privacy focused alternative I have found, but basically failed.

I would love to hear your input!

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[–] phluko@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use Signal kinda exclusively. Managed to migrate my friends and family away from WhatsApp a few years back (I am living in Europe).

[–] iwannet@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How did you do it ? I cant get them to migrate.

[–] phluko@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Around the time when Meta announced some big privacy changes to WhatsApp, it became a hot topic in the news since everyone here uses WhatsApp.

I took advantage of that situation to talk to my friends and family about how much better Signal is. I set up our existing groups like Family Chats, Friends, and Sport Groups on Signal, and helped some people install the app. I kept reminding and urging them to switch and assured them we would continue using Signal, everything will stay the same just super secure.

To make it clear to everyone still on WhatsApp, I changed my profile picture to say "please contact me via Signal." Surprisingly, within 1-2 weeks, everyone I care about made the switch and, to my surprise, they still use Signal today.

Honestly, if it wasn't for all the privacy concerns about WhatsApp in the news, I think convincing them to switch would have been much harder.

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

To be real, getting someone to change their habit is near impossible and when that happens, just send them SMS.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The way I did it was getting rid of the apps I no longer wanted on my phone. This forced people to send text messages. If they try sending a good pic/video it would obviously fail. Their only option was usually something more difficult than just installing Signal. I don't provide Whatsapp as an alternative. I did lose some contacts, but close friends/family will obviously opt for the better messaging experience compared to default SMS.

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

My brother got everyone to switch from FB messenger to WhatsApp and then FB bought whatsapp and prompted a second switch to signal

[–] AES@lemmy.ronsmans.eu 2 points 1 year ago

It's not perfect, but it is the best alternative for the masses.

[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

I wish more people in my life would use Signal but I've given up on converting people from WhatsApp.

I pretty much just use everything. my messaging folder has Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp, Discord, SMS, etc lol.

[–] Rain@lm.melonbread.dev 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elements (Matrix) as much as much as possible. I bridge a lot services through it. Though Signal would be the second most.

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[–] Lewistrick@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatsapp is the norm here so I begrudgingly use that. Wish more people were on Signal, Matrix or Telegram.

[–] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can apparently bridge Whatsapp and Matrix. I have looked into it for a few evenings but got nothing running despite having some experience with self hosting stuff. It was a while ago though.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Something like this where you can bridge into other RCS apps, just with phone number, is what I would need for both private and work stuff.

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[–] Jomn@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mainly use Signal, but sometimes have to fall back to SMS for people that aren't on Signal. I also have matrix accounts, but I never really use them since I don't have anyone among my friends and family that uses matrix.

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Does signal allow two phones yet?

I have two phones and signel can't comprehend me signing in on both of them at once. Such a stupid limitation IMO.

[–] Jomn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

No, I don't think so. I still think that it requires a different phone number on each phone. But I agree with you that it is annoying that they do not allow it, especially since they could simply imitate the functionality that exists on the desktop apps.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Signal. I refuse to use whatsapp even though that's what most people I know use.

[–] JustADirtyLurker@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I tried to migrate friends and family to Signal a couple of years back. Only managed with 3 people :/.

Unfortunately here (Italy), WhatsApp is too much widespread as reach out method now. Especially for businesses, from restaurants to, say, the family doctor.

[–] bigbox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Signal is my go to. Some of my friends refuse to download it, so I just text them. I'll use iMessage on iOS and Google Messages on Android. But if I can use Signal, I will

[–] Barroux@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I use Signal!

[–] heeplr@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Delta Chat is awesome encrypted/secure messaging via imap and thus compatible with anyone who has an email address.

Conversations is an excellent XMPP client.

[–] massacre@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Element (Matrix)

[–] vegetarian_pacemaker@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

unfortunately it is whatsapp.. Had everyone move to signal, but it didn't last :(

[–] toototabon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, most people here use WhatsApp so I, reluctantly, have it too.

some friends wouldn't even consider Telegram though it's better feature-wise; i can't think of swapping to Signal, Matrix, or others mentioned here though they may have more perks.

even if friends don't use it, to me Telegram is king with the group and channel features. you can easily connect with other telegram users almost anonymously (although scammers are to be expected).

what other apps have these sort of community chats? I found an asexual community on Matrix, but that's kind of it.

[–] shgr@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Signal and WhatsApp. WhatsApp only because a lot of people won't switch to Signal (or Threema, or Matrix).

[–] timedin@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • Signal,
  • Whatsapp only for groups on a free prepaid Number nobody knows, on a 2nd phone bridge to matrix.
  • Threema for 1Person ;)
  • remaining via SMS.
[–] carzian@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How'd you get the free prepaid number?

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[–] Arcaneslime@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

XMPP (with omemeo) is the classic (and also what FB messenger uses behind the scenes, without omemo), Matrix is the new kid on the block taking over. Both are decentralized sorta like the fediverse (but separate from said fediverse.)

Used to use Signal, but they're removing SMS support so everyone might as well switch to matrix. Wickr was bought by amazon (and they say they won't ruin it, riiiight), so that's out. Idk enough about briar or session, and telegram isn't as secure as people seem to think.

[–] allforthebest@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

The most secure app I know is SimpleX. It is like Matrix but without an identifier, so you really interacting only with people you want. No one can reach you unless you gave him a link to connect to you.

Two different people cannot be ensured they are talking to the same person since there is no identifier they can compare to.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Telegram, most of my family/friends use iphones but I use android, so I convinced them to use telegram so we can send videos, gifs, pictures, etc.

[–] copylefty@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Signal and Telegram

[–] dan@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

πŸ˜† I'd have to have friends to talk to to use a messaging app.

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Textra for SMSwhich is almost all of my messaging out side of...

Discord. My friends and I constantly use the discord we created and that's how I communicate with most of them.

I want to get my fiancee/close friends on signal because it's encrypted but haven't been able to convince them

[–] Dazawassa@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm only Discord at this point. Over time I've just wanted to stay within a select few platforms for mental health and security. I would move to Matrix but most people I know are on Discord. But I still have an account there incase anyone wants to contact me.

[–] scott@lem.free.as 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Setup Matrix and add a bridge for Discord.

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[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can bridge from Matrix to Discord.

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Eh, mostly sms and telegram.

The only people I care about use sms, and I've convinced them to use telegram for thighs sms can't do, like file sharing.

I have and use matrix for specific tasks, and I got suckered into discord for gaming and reddit. But neither get used much nowadays. There's one discord server I stay vaguely active on because internet friends use it. Post reddit implosion, the matrix isn't very useful since they were for mod chats and I'm only modding one sub until the end of the month, and that's mostly solo (no need for chats lol)

[–] DrBluefall@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

A mix of FluffyChat (backed by Matrix) and Discord.

[–] danie10@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Signal Telegram Threema Briar Conversations for XMPP Element for Matrix Jami SimpleX

At the moment, as they come and go a bit as I'm testing out new ones.

[–] KnightOwl@geddit.social 2 points 1 year ago

I only message my spouse on a regular basis. Been using Signal for the last few years. Otherwise I just stick to iMessage for everything else. I don’t text anyone else that much to try and convince them to switch to Signal or another alternative.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Telegram almost exclusively. I love thΓ© sheer number of features it offers and pay for Premium.

[–] jiminside@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Telegram is feature-richh for sure. In my country it does not have a large audience for some reason

[–] johnthedoe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately it's whatever the other person uses. So iMessage, WhatsApp, Instagram, line, and FB.

[–] s049031@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Whatsapp and Google Messenger for RCS. I wish other apps could use RCS or I'd use third party.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

https://movim.eu/ is a cool web-based XMPP client.

Telegram almost exclusively, SMS for stubborn family, and Discord for stubborn communities that won't use something better.

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I sadly still use facebook as that's the only way I can keep up with family. Instagram because everyone who competes in my sport uses it, and lemmy.

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