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[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 221 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Nah. If you want to be outraged at Google, at least be correct.

This has to do with Google "collections", not synced bookmarks. Afaik, collections are a thing you only access on mobile through the google app, this doesn't even have anything to do with Chrome.

If you run chrome on mobile, for example, you don't have access to the collections. It's only through the google app.

Almost certain they monitor collections because they can be shared with public.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 63 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They shouldn't be monitored either way in my opinion as it's just a bunch of links, but especially not while still private.

Ultimately I don't think it quite matters if it technically is bookmarks or "collections", they seem clearly used in the same manner in this case.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care if you're mad about it like I said. I just care about accuracy. The person in the screenshot and this thread's title are both inaccurate.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

I didn't ever indicate I was mad, I simply stated my opinion. We already know it is inaccurate as you shared this in your original comment.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Eh… the ultimate question, what if it’s a collection of CSAM links?

Some moderation is fine, especially when it can be shared pretty easily. This isn’t private bookmarks, it’s “private” bookmark collections.

Edit: For those downvoting, this is the same concept as a private Reddit/facebook community. Just because it’s “invite only” doesn’t mean it’s free from following the rules of the whole site.

[–] Ret2libsanity@infosec.pub 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

CSAM is never an excuse to violate everyone’s privacy.

I hate seeing people implying that it is. It’s no better then Patriot Act B.s that took away privacy in the name of catching terrorists.

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Beats me, I only use chrome if firefox cannot display the site correctly. And it's a case to case basis at that, it has to be that I really really need to access that site.

Also i rarely use the Google apps that came with my phone. The most probably used one is Maps.

Edit : so yeah, I forgot. I'm on Android. There's that, no escaping from them on my part. I can't be bothered with using and installing my own phone OS.

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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Crazy that I had to scroll past 9 other comments to reach this one. Maybe I oughta start sorting comments by top.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My bookmarks can also be shared with the public though

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[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 100 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google keeps taking L's and firefox keeps taking W's. If they keep going maybe firefox will be most used browser again

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How to make people care, though

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A few days ago, a friend asked me what browser I was using, a question he asked me in a genuine manner of getting my opinion. When I asnwered that I was using Firefox, he - again, what seemed to be genuine - wanted to know why. Knowing that he likes to use adblockers, I then told him about Google's recent attempts of attacking an open web, specificly mentioning ManifestV3 and WEI API and how they are a potential threat to his use of adblockers.

"Well, I use ublock origin on chrome and it still works, so I'll keep using that."

Apparently, I am not convincing enough.

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[–] baked_tea@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless they sort out their funding (find someone that is not Google for majority of their money), people shouldn't care.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't understand. You think people shouldn't care about privacy? You think people shouldn't care about one or two massive corporations having complete control over the internet?

Explain.

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think his point is that as long as Google is the primary funding source for Mozilla it's not worth relying on Firefox because there's always the risk Google will demand Mozilla capitulates and tows the line. Once/If Mozilla secure independent funding then they can be 'trusted'

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav 11 points 1 year ago

Oh, I see. For some reason, I thought they were referring to content creators and others who profit from Google ads or something like that.

And yeah, there's a lot that Mozilla's corporate branch needs to sort out, but Firefox and its forks are the only viable alternatives to chromium browsers right now, so people should still care about that.

"Perfection is the enemy of progress" ... or something like that

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[–] June@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate that I have to keep chrome on my machine because some sites I visit don’t work well, or at all, on Firefox.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard a lot of people mention this recently and I must live a charmed life because I've never had this happen. There was I think maybe, once where I was having a problem with a site and it said that I needed to use a browser like chrome so I begrudgingly did and it still didn't work so I don't count that as an example and other than that, I've just never seen it. In fact I'm pretty sure it's not since about 2001 that I've seen any website give me shit with only working on certain browsers and that was sites designed to work on IE6 or something.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago

This is misinformation. This has to do with Google collections and how it's a shared platform, so of course google is going to monitor this.

Your private bookmarks are fine. Relax.

Still, you shouldn't use Chrome or any Google products if you can help it.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

Op you're so easily fooled

[–] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fake, as that site is brand new and has nothing on it.

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[–] Linnce 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are saying this is fake, maybe that image in particular is, but I just got that email and that's annoying me so here's a pic

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[–] snor10@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am so incredibly sick of this intrusive digital dystopia.

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[–] traveler@lemdro.id 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Jesus just stop using Google. I registered my own domains (in plural yes) and nowadays I’m using them with iCloud, but I could easily change my entire emails from provider with a simple dns change.

For browser I advise using Firefox, but if you don’t like its performance Brave it’s also a good choice. (Though both have some shit going on behind curtains still far better than Google).

For password management just use either Bitwarden, Proton Pass or 1Password. It’s easy not to use Google to store your data, there’s a lot of competitors for what they do.

[–] martreides 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Don't use Brave, it is a mess and sketchy as hell. They have been selling copyrighted material and even injected their own affiliate link when users browsed to Binance.

I do agree with the other parts! It is not that difficult to move away from Google!

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[–] solivine@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Brave is built on chromium...

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[–] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] worfamerryman 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How long until Android starts blocking access to websites.

I really do not trust these large tech companies.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

getfirefox.com and disable google search in your preferences. F*ck google.

[–] Mr_Vortex@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Good thing I've been using Raindrop.io to manage my bookmarks for years because I used to switch browsers so often. I've settled on Firefox for the most part, but am looking forward to Arc on Windows.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this just chrome? Or does this affect all chromium browsers? And yes, I already use FF, but I also use Brave for when FF doesn't work.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's about synced bookmarks. Do any browsers besides Chrome sync through Google?

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[–] lorez@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I'll switch immediately.

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

the only two things that shock me about this is

  1. That it took until now for it to happen

  2. that people are shocked by it.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Not on firefox they're not

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As people have said, this is fake, but why would you keep any important data with Google anyway?

[–] Linnce 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People keep saying this is fake,, but I just received this email today on another site lol that's annoying

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[–] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this an old screenshot? The email looks like a screenshot of a screenshot, of a screenshot, etc.

[–] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fake, visit the site, there is nothing there.

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