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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (33 children)

Translation: you'll become more conservative when you have children and own a home

Millennials: 😆
Zoomers: 😂
Alpha: 🤣
Whateverthefuckcomesnext: 💀

[–] ulkesh 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a child and own a home, and am a member of the lost generation. Fuck the Republican Party and any conservative who believes their selfish bullshit should outweigh the greater good of others.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans are fascists, not conservatives.

Democrats are the conservative party.

[–] ulkesh 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree about Republicans. I don't agree about Democrats. Some, of course, are conservative, as they historically always have been. But a good portion are quite liberal.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

There are two kinds of Democrats: conservatives and hostages

[–] Khotetsu@lib.lgbt 13 points 1 year ago

As a whole, the Dems are pretty center of the aisle, because America as a whole is fairly conservative compared to Europe (despite 60% of the population being more liberal than the government at most times). Europeans generally consider the Dems in the US a conservative party, and corporate Dems are definitely closer to the right than to the left. The other issue besides the general conservative leaning in the country though is that there's about 50 other groups of various left leaning shades that would be their own separate parties in Europe but are bunched in with the corporate Dems and therefore have little say in the party platform.

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[–] RadicalCandour@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with everything you said except, im confused about the use of the term lost generation. That’s a generation born in the 1880-1900s.

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[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having to mow the lawn is the first step in the pipeline of fascism

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You joke, but if you ever talked to a homeowner about their lawn and heard them complain about their neighbor's lawn...

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In order to be conservative you have to be afraid, irrationally. Afraid your guns will be taken, afraid the gays are going to out-breed you (not even kidding, they really "think" that), afraid what you want won't be what everyone does, afraid other people are smarter or more capable, afraid that when you die you won't get magicked somewhere to live forever. Basically afraid of everything whether it makes any sense or not. And afraid someone else will find out how afraid you are all the time.

They're pathetic and not fit to walk a dog much less run anything.

[–] essellburns 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of that specific brand of conservatism is very American. While everywhere has conservatives, and I totally agree they're build on a foundation of personal fear, they have very different presentations in different places!

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[–] argv_minus_one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

afraid the gays are going to out-breed you (not even kidding, they really “think” that)

Do, uh, do they understand how reproduction works, or…?

afraid what you want won’t be what everyone does, afraid other people are smarter or more capable

Well, yeah, that's almost certainly true.

afraid that when you die you won’t get magicked somewhere to live forever.

Atheists would say that's true too.

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[–] Boi@reddthat.com 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was actually more right wing as a kid. Now that I've learned some things about the world that's when I became a left leaning liberal.

[–] pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Went from voting far right in 2017 (fucking welfare abusers ) to far left in 2022 (fuckibg corporations costing three times more than welfare) kek

[–] BarryZuckerkorn 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Young people tend to be more persuadable before 30, and tend to bake in their political views around that age. So big events in one's 20's tend to lead to lasting partisan affiliations for life after that.

FDR's presidency won over a lot of people to the Democrats in the 30's and 40's. Eisenhower's presidency shifted people over to Republicans in the 50's. Nixon pushed people away from Republicans. But by the 70's Democrats were losing a lot of voters, and then Reagan won a bunch of people over to the GOP. Then 9/11 won people over to Republicans, while the Iraq war pushed them away.

But each of these things had an outsized effect on those under 30. So Boomers who remember getting fed up with Democrats in the 70s and crossing over for Reagan (and then voting Republican in every election since) just thought it was the effect of age, rather than the effect of that particular political moment in 1980.

And even though this data and the analysis is mainly for Americans, it's probably reflective of how people shape their own political beliefs everywhere.

[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

That's probably true.. It would be nice if people would voluntarily read books at all ages and get educated so that they can have actual political beliefs instead of 'x party good, y party bad'

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate it when boomers, specifically, say this. My grandfather, who is Silent Generation, will tell you that he’s gotten more liberal as he’s gotten older. Whenever I hear a boomer say this, it’s used as a shaming, like “you don’t understand now but you will when you’re older”. Turns out I haven’t gotten more conservative. I listened to minority populations and then came out and it’s turned me more leftist.

[–] unfnknblvbl 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, same. It's also part of their mindset that "progressive = immature" which I've always found really confusing.

Yes, the idea that my taxes should be spent for the benefit of all is immature. Gotcha.

[–] TheRealGChu@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

GenXer. I've gotten more progressive. I used to consider myself a moderate dem back in the 90s. On the other hand, the 90s moderate dem is now considered a commie woke libtard, so shrug? Shocking that I want justice for all, fair wages, end systemic racism, end homophobia, etc. So librul! I'm destroying Western society! Oh wait, I'm a POC immigrant woman, course I'm destroying America!

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

Eat the rich at any age

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The older phrase used to be "You become more right wing when you get older", whereas it's quite likely it was missing the specific cause, which was "You become more right wing when you stop learning". [Edit] Typo

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[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

41, stable finances, kid, decent job, and still BETTER DEAD THAN RED!

And just to be 100% clear, since I know that phrase meant something completely different 50 years ago, Republicans can get ass-fucked with a spoon

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My afternoons at 18: sips tea reading Noam Chomsky’s Failed State

My afternoons at 30: sips vodka reading Unabomber’s Manifesto

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Um, ok. Please don't murder a lot of innocent people?

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Ok, just a couple of guilty ones then

Edit: oh I almost forgot

/s

I don't want Secret Services rifling through my stuff because some of you don't have the ingenuity to tell this was a joke

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[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You become conservative when you lose ability to adapt and learn, thereby yearning for the days when you were you were younger and, as you mostly falsely remember, "times were simpler", which is a delusion caused by the different lifestyle and world perception you used to have. Now you're just older and scared because you forgot to keep up with the times.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

My friends who have kids now did become more conservative. But most of them are very religious and grew up going to church every Sunday. So... I think they might have had a certain influence.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 12 points 1 year ago

"people get more selfish and small minded as they age, that's just a fact!"

[–] electric_soldier@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

51, still not a conservative

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

People become more conservative once they actually accumulate wealth that they can use, and don't want policies passed that will reduce that wealth.

Millennials and younger generations have not the opportunity to generate the same amount of wealth by their 30's or even their 40's as Boomers had.

Therefore leftism and liberalism will be more predominant in these younger generations.

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Again, this is not a boomer issue. I was told the same thing by Silents. I've only moved left-er.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still trying to get my own studio apartment

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[–] Defenestrator@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

First there would need to be something worth conserving.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Photo is replaceable by mine, hunched over the laptop when the Internet is down. Text in the Photo the same.

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