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My Sci-fi unpopular opinion is that 2001: A Space Odyssey is nothing but pretentious, LSD fueled nonsense. I've tried watching it multiple times and each time I have absolutely no patience for the pointless little scenes which contain little to no depth or meaningful plot, all coalescing towards that 15 minute "journey" through space and series of hallucinations or whatever that are supposed to be deep, shake you to your foundations, and make you re-think the whole human condition.

But it doesn't. Because it's just pretentious, LSD fueled nonsense. Planet of the Apes was released in the same year and is, on every level, a better Sci-fi movie. It offers mystery, a consistent and engaging plot, relatable characters you actually care about, and asks a lot more questions about the world and our place in it.

It insists upon itself, Lois.

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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Star Wars is not good, for the most part. There are a couple good movies and shows, but the majority of Star Wars is not good at all.

Rian Johnson’s movie didn’t deserve the hate it got! It wasn’t bad.

Rogue One is fantastic. Full stop.

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[–] chgowiz@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've got 3 of them...

  1. I liked Prometheus. I had no issues with Covenant, enjoyed it as well.
  2. I'd like to see more original sci-fi shows than just yet another time-travel or evil alien/AI destroys humanity scenario. I enjoy them, but I'd like to think there's a lot more to the future than just those two possibilities.
  3. I've never seen Firefly or Serenity and have no interest in doing so.
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[–] DrChickenbeer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Anomandaris

I went to film school, and had to watch 2001 like five times in classes, breaking down every little element of it. And you know what? I also think it's boring and pretentious AF. The fx and production design are incredible, and parts of it are good enough, but other than that it's just Kubrick demonstrating how much smarter he thought he was than everyone else (I am not a fan of his films, if that wasn't clear enough).

I did enjoy the book a lot, though! If you haven't read it I think you'll be surprised how it tells the same story, just better.

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[–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The newest Robocop movie was actually REALLY good,

as probably the best prediction of how we will start with autonomous robots in the battlefield being sidekicks to a prime human operator,

and that there will be a public push back about them being deployed in a police manner, but a political push to deploy them in a civilian theatre.

And when the majority of someone's body is replaced by artificial limbs/organs/etc. At what point are they still human.

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[–] StaggersAndJags@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shared universes between franchises are a bad idea. I don't mean commercially. They're a great idea if you want to make a billion dollars. But they're bad for storytelling.

Reason 1 is that the story being told is always in service to some other story. By which I mean, the writer has to make decisions that aren't about making this story the best it can be, but about making it make sense in context with everything that's come before it. For example, Batman can't just be a story about a smart, athletic vigilante in a costume. He has to be the smartest, most athletic human being who has ever lived, because he has to compete with, and remain relevant amongst, actual superheroes and supervillains.

Reason 2 is that it undermines the impact of each story because, again, the stories have to be considered within a massive context. In Watchmen, we can imagine the awe and horror people felt about Dr. Manhattan because, like in our world, nothing like him had ever existed. If you put him in the same universe as Superman, he's just another superhero.

Obviously I'm talking about large comic-book style shared universes with multiple authors and largely independent stories. I have nothing against franchises that use other works to expand on previously introduced concepts and do it in a coherent way.

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[–] JoaquimCarneiro@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Unpopular opinion: I really liked Star Trek Discovery Klingons...

[–] djmarcone@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  1. DS9 is the best trek
  2. Babylon 5 is the best sci fi show of all time
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[–] CileTheSane@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Teleporters kill you and clone you. The person walking out of the teleporter may look like you and have your memories, but you are dead and that is a clone.

The process is likely incredibly painful, but because the memories of the clone are copied from just before the process started no one actually knows.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Heh. I just mentioned this one in another comment in this thread a short distance further up.

My response to this philosophy is... so? The end result is the same, it makes no difference to me.

Though we do know for a fact that it isn't painful, there was an episode where we saw Barkley go through a very slow transport sequence and he was aware through the process. He was nervous but not in pain.

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[–] IceCapp@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I liked Terra Nova and wish it didnt get cancelled after one season even though it wasn't a great show. I loved the premise of humans going back in time when Dinosaurs roamed the Earth.

[–] FrostBolt@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Now there's a show I haven't thought about in a long time! That was such a fun, escapist one. Beautiful actors too

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[–] wjrii@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • The Last Jedi is the best Disney Star Wars movie, bar none.
  • Rogue One is overrated.
  • Andor is not overrated, but it also cannot be the blueprint for all or even most Star Wars going forward.
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[–] plactagonic 5 points 1 year ago

Space Odyssey is pretty close adaptation of book and has more dialogue than book. So there was this art approach which some like and others don't. For me book is amazing but film is boring.

New adaptation of Dune is similar but more digestible for regular viewer.

[–] 10strip@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lexx: Xev was superior to Zev in every way.

[–] alternative_factor@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like enjoying Lexx at all is an unpopular opinion, at least where I am. I really loved potatohoe, stand-out moment for me.

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[–] Steinawitz@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like to see season 4 of Dark Matter produced. The cliffhanger at the end of S3 was insane and I still can't believe they canceled the show and left it at that.

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[–] CynAq@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My unpopular sci-fi opinion is that Discovery is an amazing adaptation of the Star Trek universe into the gritty, modern sci-fi paradigm.

I love it and I love that it is in the Star Trek franchise.

For perspective, my favorite Trek series is TNG.

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[–] OldFartPhil@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I didn't love The Martian. It wasn't a bad book, but I got bored in places. I was more engaged by Project Hail Mary (which is probably another unpopular opinion).

EDIT: Guess I should mention I'm referring to the books. Never saw The Martian movie.

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[–] Kaizo107@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The vast majority of Star Wars, new canon and legends, is poorly written trash, but the cringe ass campiness is what makes it a star war.

Rey isn't the problem, revisionist history is.

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