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If not, how much would you counteroffer?

(If you aren't an American, assume for this hypothetical that you were suddenly granted citizenship and all other requirements are waived.)

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[–] holland@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a seriously low amount of money for this. Most Presidents will make much more than this out of office in just speaking fees and the normal grifting and graft that happens around them. You'd be endangering your ability to make so much more money in the future if that was your goal.

[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They know it's a low amount and are trying to see if their potential new puppet is dumb enough to accept it.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

So, it's a decoy snail?

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This prompt hurts my brain.

You are the President of the United States.

You are the leader of a nation. Hundreds of millions of people are depending on you.

How many tootsie rolls would it take you to sell out to a rich fuck who has that many tootsie rolls?

Fuck you. I have 4 years. We need to kick our fossil fuel addiction. People deserve privacy. Domestic terrorists need to feel fear again. The government needs to be reminded it serves the people...

Let me drive the bargaining up to 100 million, then let me shove a red hot fire poker up your ass and leave you in a dank cell to die aching.

Then let me live a decent life where I might not feel the excess of being rich, but my diner tabs are paid for, my bar tabs are covered, and I have friends who make sure my home is safe.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Soooo... that's a "no", I take it?

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if i'm president, didn't i almost certainly take such a deal already?

[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe you got a cabinet position for.. um idk... Secretary of Agriculture because the president knew you and decided to appoint you for some reason? And then he/she and the VP both got involved in a huge scandal or something and everyone else in the line of succession were fired by the president for snitching on him/her regarding the scandal, then you are now the next in line?

(Don't think too hard, it's a hypothetical πŸ˜‰)

Even Senators are worth like fifteen times that in spite of a 200k/year salary.

[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

If I'm the president of the United States, I won't have any need for bribes because former presidents can make a ton of money by selling books, giving lectures, and things like that. A million dollars is not that difficult for a former president to make completely legally, so it will not be life-changing at all. And any amount of money that is significantly larger won't matter anyway, because once you pass the 5-10 million dollars mark, your quality of life won't change much anyway. This is why I would easily turn down even a billion dollar bribe without hesitation.

Even if I were the type of person who doesn't care for ethics and morals, accepting a bribe would be unnecessary and risky.

And for the people saying that this money can do a lot of good, the president of the US has a lot more resources to manipulate to make this bribe a drop in the bucket.

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago

Don't know if you know this, but most bribes most politicians (not the president) take are really small. Like 2k-maybe 20k to fuck over your country and the people you represent. Shit is wild, I thought it would be so much more.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You assume they’re bribed but I’ll bet it’s both death threats AND bribes.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

People don't become president because they want to get rich; most of them are already rich, and could make more money if they were working in the private sector. (Although being an elected national politician has great benefits, like pensions, security details, health benefits that are far better than almost anything you'd get privately, etc.) In most cases, they want power. So you're going to need to offer some kind of equivalency.

At a certain point, money becomes raw power, but it's not when it's just a million here or there, not anymore. After all. the president may not have huge amounts of money, but he has the ability to suggest that the DoJ to start investigating you.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 7 points 1 year ago

I laugh in their face and tell them it takes waaaaaaaaaay more than that to buy me. Like at least a hundred times that.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

No I would not take that. The rich life of being a 4-to-8-millionaire would not be worth the self disgust and guilt I’d feel over knowing I’d sold out my country.

[–] vegai@suppo.fi 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In practice, what would stop me from taking the money and not doing what they want? Assassination risk?

Take 1000 million in bribes and distribute it to poor people, lol.

[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They stop giving you money, spend it on helping your opponent win. Manipulate congress to impeach you. Also they can blackmail you since you technically took a bribe, you just didn't honor your end of the deal. Realistically, it wouldn't be the rich person himself/herself talking to you about it, but someone that works for them. They can have one of their goons admit bribing you and they can exchange their testimoney against you for their immunity against prosecution. They might've made a secret recording of the conversation, but conviently left out the part of which wealthy billionaire they're working for. You might not even know the identity of which billionaire, all of the interaction could be through messengers.

[–] Zippythezigzag@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

If i became president then the world is already a lost cause and money is worthless.

[–] Icalasari@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I was president, something went horribly wrong as I'm Canadian

Don't worry, the 28th amendment was passed officially annexing canada, and grants "Natural Born Citizen" status to all former citizens and residents of Canada, age restrictions were also waived. Everything is fine.

[–] olorin99@artemis.camp 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah nah, the US president makes 400k USD a year + benefits. That should be more than enough for any person.

If not, how much would you counteroffer?

If someone attempted to bribe me I would automatically assume their proposal was a bad idea.

Why get only 400k when you can have more? 😈

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

No. If you need to pay for legislation, it is obviously shit.

[–] IntentionallyAnon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I would ask for 1.25 but I would accept 1 million a year

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't take a direct bribe unless it was for something I already wanted or had thought about doing. I would definitely leverage inside information to make money for my family and friends.

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

President makes 400,000 a year for a min of 4 years (1,600,000) and a max of 8 years (3,200,000) so I'd probably ask for 5,000,000 a year for them to call the shots and an extra 1,000,000 for anything I don't think will get me reelected.

4 years of 5mil nets me 20mil and 8 nets me 40mil. I stash that away in a moderate dividend spread and I'll be just fine for the overwhelming majority of my life.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Likely gonna make at least that much from speaking deals and being on think tank boards and the like anyway. Doing your best to improve the nation, thus improving your image, could very easily sharply increase the money you make from those gigs. Even at that level I wouldn't have the slightest clue as to what to do with the money, so I sure as hell wouldn't really want more.

I take it. Sign it.

Then tell the American people.

Fuck rich people

[–] Echo71Niner@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

365 million is pennies, has to be 10 times that amount.

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did you get to 365 million?

[–] Jourei@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's the true amount and they just publicly state weekly. :D

I cost more than $1m . It would need to be closer to $5Mif not $10m for me to sell out and do as they expect. being president pulls a $400k salary as it is...that is over 4 times what i make already so if someone want s to buy my presidency, it is going to be as close ot fuck you money as I can get

cereal7802 for president

[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

"Only one million? Man, this economy is really bad, getting someone should do something about it."

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

No. I don't need that money.

[–] Eggyhead@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

I’d put it to a vote.