Wow it must be an extremely novel experience for an iOS programmer to have a company arbitrarily make decisions about what you can and cannot do on their platform
this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
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[Edit: upon reflection, this post went too far. To any who saw it, I apologize.]
Apple bad
Wait hold on
People wanting to make software for widely used devices bad?
Who even still uses apple devices in 2023?
- Sent from a cave far away from America.
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Ok that WAS clever
To anyone who is curious what it said something to the effect of:
why not they seem to like the boot already
I wish I could say that Google is better at that. Itβs basically the same story but with even less humans to talk to when youβre flagged for doing something wrong or in the case of Google your former college roommate whom you havenβt seen in 10 years did something wrong. Itβs the price all mobile devs pay unless they only want to distribute to a small subset of users who have liberated their phones.
when I started with mobile apps google was easy and apple was a problem.
nowadays apple is very clear on what they allow and what they don't and it's possible to go back and forth with them to get something approved.
google is trying their hard to be as strict as apple while putting 0 of the effort in to correct problems. not to mention that android is a fucking piece of garbage to maintain. you have like 4 deadlines per year, you need to update this or that thing or your app won't work on this or that device, or the deprecation deadline for fucking safetynet arrives and they take two weeks to repair the google play integrity service.
tbh i think that safetynet and other attestation features are a waste of time and should die.
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you do realize in this regard google/Apple are two sides of the same coin right?
I don't think he was drawing a comparison.
Mobile development sucks in general.
I tried to follow an Android tutorial (in Kotlin, so it should have been a modern one) a while ago, and the only conclusion I can come to is it was all designed by 500 different people over 15 years who never spoke to each other, and nobody ever dared throw anything away.
I've never seen such a basic CRUD app (and incidentally wasn't even doing the C, U or D of that) take so many lines of code to do "properly". Nothing that simple should be that complex. Everything seems geared up for "what if you want to translate to 100 different languages, change the back end at any point, and individually configure forms for these 80 different aspect ratios on devices?" Yeah, what if I don't?
I still use Delphi for my sins, and while it has its faults (mostly that it's closed source, and no fucker else uses it so I can't work anywhere else), but simple apps like that are "drop a few things on a form, add half a dozen lines of code and run it".
There's all these places in Android that should be easy, but because you're going through three levels of XML files and umpteen factory classes, it isn't.
Eh, no need to bring the iOS/Android fight into this. OP saw an opportunity for a joke and took it. The butt of the joke is iOS because that's what the sub is about. If it were for android the same joke could be made, though folks would probably make different ones with other more glaring issues that Google has.
lol gottem
Tbf I've found google and apple fairly good to develop for(they handle app signing, deployment and more)
Once you fork over the cash, that is...
Woah! Sick burn, bro!
What's reddit
Lemmy-like platform. But looks like they haven't implemented ActivityPub yet.
They sound pretty shady. Think we should defederate?
Dam lemmy.world at it again
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They also seem to want to replace moderators with AI and even bought a company that does so. Weird, and probably easy to abuse. Wouldn't trust.
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It's a website where bots talk to each other and posts links from all over the internet in order to scam corporations out of ad revenue.
Dead Internet theory personified.
A centralized, proprietary alternative to Lemmy.
I think its like Chlamydia but you catch it from sticking your head too far up your ass (hence spez has it the worst)
a marketing tool
FUCK SPEZ (Steve Huffman)
At this point, to me, it's fuck reddit, spez is just a scapegoat that does what the board wants and all other admin happy to comply, he doesn't own it like elon owns twitter
Yep. Some of us remember when it was Fuck Ellen Pao, they seem to like their sacrificial CEOs over there, though I'm sure they get paid too much to be the scapegoat.
That just makes me stop and think about how bad Musk loves being That Guy. The other ones will take the heat and then float away on their golden parachutes, you never really hear from them again. Not him. He keeps making new companies so he can be That Guy at them.
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Thank you for your service o7
Iβm just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.
Eventually it was bound to happen. Still sad to see mods getting removed to make way for more Spez friendly replacements
Coming from r/DnDMemes I feel you dude. Thank you for putting it all on the line and sticking to what you felt was right.
Iβm just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.
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I dont get why subreddit mods work or worked for free for a company that makes money from what they do β¦..
Probably same reason people go crazy for power, no matter how small of an amount
You can make money doing it, you just have to have extremely loose morals.
Not sure what he expected. I commend all the protesting, but we all saw how reddit responded. They didn't give two shits. Yet people stick around in a toxic relationship with the site until they get removed. It's weird. Why not just make the move to Lemmy before they take everything from you?
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Is there a community here for it yet?
Closest thing is !mobiledev@programming.dev currently, I've just reached out to one of the iOSProgramming mods about if they want to set up here
Update: we now have !ios_dev@programming.dev, temporarily managed by me until we get some mods for it
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I'm surprised they gave a shit for /r/iOSProgramming since it's not as popular. It's more niche but yeah sad to hear. Glad I got rid of reddit after the API shutdown.
They sound pretty shady...
This is outrageous, it's unfair!
Doesn't having it private mean it wasn't a community of 150k? It was a community of 1.
I understood taking subs NSFW to keep advertising out, but taking them private was causing the community to die. Once that went beyond a few days it was time to shift platform.
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