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[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 109 points 1 year ago (2 children)

About damn time, they should never have disabled it in the first place.

[–] happyhippo@feddit.it 62 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Let's just appreciate the fact that basically no other browser has this.

With chrome/ium you can't even block ads.

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[–] sunflower_scribe 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now, if only iOS would allow true Safari alternatives. 🥲

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 71 points 1 year ago (9 children)

They'll soon be forced to allow sideloading, in the EU at least. Should open the doors for proper alternative browsers.

[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loathe the very fact they made people call it "sideloading". It's just installing on your own terms, like it used to be the norm.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Well, it's a carry over from its early days in how it used to work. You needed to install things via USB debugger. Generally that's all sideloading ever meant, transferring information from one device to another using a generally "local" method (SD card, USB, etc). Now sideloading, on Android at least (as it retains its original meaning elsewhere), just means not from the official repository.

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[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

I use FF on android for a couple months now. Solid browser and sync to desktop and add blocker are nice.

BUT: their page reloading is far too aggressive. You can't buy anything online, since once 2FA is required and you need to open your bank app, confirm, and switch back, the page reloads and the 2FA didn't get through. Tickets and such are the only reason I have still chrome installed.

[–] Scary_le_Poo 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is Android aggressively killing apps, not Firefox.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

Possibly, but previously I've been able to load a site, open a media-rich page in a new tab, then close that tab to go back to the original page.

On a newer build of FF for Android, that first page is re-loaded from the internet.

[–] dsmk@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hmm, I'm not experiencing that. Could Android (well, the flavour used by your phone) be killing background apps too aggressively or something like that?

Edit: could also be a RAM thing. I have 12GB.

[–] middlemuddle 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not experiencing that issue either and I have half the amount of RAM that you do. I've noticed an unnecessary autorefresh only after closing out of the browser for a long time, never in the middle of switching between apps. But, that does sound like annoying behavior.

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[–] radix@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

This annoyed me too. I use Firefox Nightly with accessibility.blockautorefresh set in about:config, and it helps.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1204335

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why it was restricted in the first place?

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there were enough incompatibilities to make it a hassle. But when they were sorting out the Web Manifest v3, they designed it with desktop and mobile in mind, so new extensions won't have problems.

[–] bankimu@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It makes less sense since extensions actually ran on Android, e.g. via Nightly and creating your own list of exceptions. Also if you downgrade and install in an old Fennec version, extension will continue to function if you then update to the latest.

I think the move was an attempt to create a walled garden. But for whatever reason, they have now decided against it. Thank goodness.

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[–] ItsTom87@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe they couldn't guarantee that the mobile version could run well with all of them? That's what I've always assumed.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Which I think is kinda weird decision since they could've just hidden a setting that unlocks all addons in the options. But maybe they were so incompatible at the time that it wasn't worth the headache.

[–] frogfruit@discuss.online 11 points 1 year ago

If you use Beta or Nightly, you can turn on dev tools and use a custom addon list from a collection in your user account. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/

There is a hidden way to activate more extensions and most - if not the vast majority - extensions work fine.

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[–] comradegreetingcard@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Can we have tabs when using a tablet please?

[–] donio 7 points 1 year ago

And why not phones too if the user prefers it that way. Can we have our user preferences back please?

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[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

For those who don't know yet: Firefox Nightly for Android let you install any extension you desire.

You just need to create a custom collection on the web site and link your ID in nightly.

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[–] bankimu@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My goodness that's awesome. I never understood why they locked it down in the first place about a year ago. What changed?

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[–] suny 23 points 1 year ago

great, now waiting for them to finally fix the supremely janky tab behavior.

[–] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice. What I need now is the ability to group tabs together

[–] berg@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you tried sidebery? When I found tree layout for tabs to be a thing I haven't looked back.

[–] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you! I am going to install it right now on my desktop PC. I was referring to the android version btw 😂

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[–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Permission to shout hurrah in an annoyingly loud voice sir!

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[–] 9up999@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Installed firefox yesterday. Nothing really changed or improved. Uninstalled firefox.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 3 clicks to install AdBlock on Firefox mobile and that alone instantly makes it superior to Chrome.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ublock origin is better I believe.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

Ublock origin is actually #1 on top of the list and the one I have installed, I was using "adblock" as a generic term.

As far as I can tell, chrome mobile does not support ublock origin like firefox mobile does.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (14 children)

What is the main reason you (presumably) use Chrome over Firefox? People here might be able to help you solve the problem.

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[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Literally was just telling my partner how much better browsing is since switching to Firefox on android. The ability to install extensions period is a huge upgrade, but also there are several available that are fantastic and not features available on chrome. Not sure what you mean about needing extensions to match chrome features. In fact, none of the extensions I've installed are features present in chrome. Plus I can block ads and trackers, activate dark mode everywhere, and use YouTube for audio with my screen off. I am kicking myself for being lazy. On top of giving Google personal data for no reason, I've had a worse browsing experience for years.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's funny how some people are willing to use weird android mods that can't run half of the apps to protect their privacy while others can't even wait 0.01s longer for a page to load.

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[–] nx2@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago
[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

It's about damn time

[–] transistor@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago

This is great.

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