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[–] maxxxxpower@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do I get a discount for checking myself out? Unless it's 1-2 items and the normal line is full - it is cashier every time for me.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same. I will go to the cashier even when it's somewhat inconvenient to me just because I despise the idea that the grocery store is making me be the cashier for free.

[–] ricecake 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, they're also "making you" pick up your items off the shelf, just like the gas station "makes you" pump your own gas.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

That’s why if something “fails” to scan or you input some produce at a cheaper price “on accident”, then it’s the store’s fault - you’re not a cashier, just a customer doing self-checkout.

[–] NathanielThomas@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What value does a real human provide you though?

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re a skilled worker that has memorized the codes for the different types of potatoes, a skill I am unlikely to learn.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I guess it depends on the machine, but I don't have to memorize codes. You can search for the item by name when it's time to weigh it.

[–] NathanielThomas@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find cashier lines to be too slow because of the socialization so I always go to the self checkouts.

A lot of old ladies will go to cashiers and have ridiculous questions and requests and you're standing there with your 3 items dying inside.

[–] LHookham@c.im 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@NathanielThomas @grte
So seniors with questions are the only persons slowing down check-outs???

[–] NathanielThomas@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sometimes the cashiers themselves are slow and scan items like they're regretting every life decision they ever made.

What I love about selfcheckout is I go at my pace, as fast or slow as I want to be.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes the cashiers themselves are slow and scan items like they're regretting every life decision they ever made.

Such a good description of my local cashiers'

[–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@monobot @NathanielThomas

You could always switch jobs with them for 2 weeks just to show them how it should be done.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was working in fast food for a long time, it was more than enough for me, thank you.

But looks like good job to automate, let people do something better.

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[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People that make stupid assumptions slow the lines more.

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[–] Frederic 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like self-checkout especially when there's lot of people and you have 1 or 2 items, it's convenient, for me. But as written in the article, someone in need like this woman, needs a cashier lane. I'm not against self, but all stores should have at least one lane with cashier, always, for people in need.

[–] mike@lemmy.dlct.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Yes I agree I think having a mix of the two is best. Let the customers decide what they would like to use.

[–] jcrm@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a huge self checkout fan, but I think we need more perspective on how shitty ours is sometimes. Loblaws and all of them are way behind on how it should work. Look at the Netherlands and how it's often done there, you walk around with a scanner so you can scan as you go and quickly pay at the end.

Or even better, look at how Uniqlo is doing it. It's all RFID, so you just drop your basket on the checkout, and it scans it all for you basically instantly.

The problem isn't self checkout, it's that the grocery stores are using it to purely cut costs and don't actually care if it's better for the consumer in any way. But hey, at least it's easy to "accidentally" not scan something right now.

[–] commandar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at the Netherlands and how it's often done there, you walk around with a scanner so you can scan as you go and quickly pay at the end.

Walmart and Sam's Club have this with their Scan & Go app in the US. Scan the barcode with your phone, add it to your cart, pay from your phone, and someone at the door will scan a QR from your phone then scan a few random items in the cart and you're done.

I pretty much wouldn't shop at Sam's if it didn't exist. The checkout lines there have always been long and a pain. It cuts a ton of time standing around waiting in line out of a trip.

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[–] argv_minus_one 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't appreciate stores trying to force me to do the cashier's job.

I also don't appreciate them trying to pull the rug out from under the economy. If there's one thing my country does not need, it's millions more homeless people.

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t appreciate stores trying to force me to do the cashier’s job.

But you don't mind the fact that they have you doing the warehouse picker's job?

I also don’t appreciate them trying to pull the rug out from under the economy. If there’s one thing my country does not need, it’s millions more homeless people.

And maybe the first millions wouldn't be homeless if you weren't so keen to take their warehouse picking jobs. Once upon a time it was a respectable profession. Why do you care so little about them?

[–] argv_minus_one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Before I answer, first you need to explain what a warehouse picker is, because I've never heard of that before.

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The person who works in the warehouse to pick the items off the shelf when an order is placed. You know, the job you were conned into doing when you enter one of these warehouse-style stores that we are talking about.

It wasn't always that way. Historically, you would place your order at the front counter and a diligent worker would work behind the scenes to gather your request. Some businesses still operate this way, to be sure, but it has largely gone the way of the dodo. It is generally more profitable when the customer does the work.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and people are apparently not super pumped about being warehouse pickers either because online ordering is only going up.

[–] argv_minus_one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless I'm mistaken, all online retailers of non-digital goods operate that way, so that job is far from extinct.

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[–] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

I don’t like self checkouts.

I don’t like fiddling with the thing, I don’t like how they lay the interface out (it’s designed to not be efficient, and there’s always so many clicks to pay), I don’t like entering vegetable UPC codes, I don’t like touching the screen 100 other people touched without it being cleaned, and I don’t like feeling like I’m being watched, and I don’t like context switching between scanning, choosing, and bagging.

I just want to load my items onto a belt, the cashier scans them and enters codes, then I bag them. I’ll simply say no to donating and tap my card and leave. Simple.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love self checkout, at least when it's implemented well.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As far as I can tell there isn't a single one that isn't a steaming pile of shit. Where have you found acceptable ones?

That said I'm against them because it reduces the employment that a business requires while pushing the work onto the customers. Unless they are giving me a discount for using the self checkout you are effectively being an employee for free for the store.

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you are effectively being an employee for free for the store.

You already accepted being an employee of the store when you decided to enter the warehouse to pick the items off the shelf yourself.

The only question is: Can you clock out faster if your co-worker helps you process the items you picked or will it be faster if you do it all by yourself?

[–] ricecake 4 points 1 year ago

My local store let's me scan with my phone as I shop. When I get to the checkout I scan a QR code, it transfers everything to the register asks if I have anything else. Occasionally it'll have someone come over and scan a few items to spot check, but not super often. Then I pay and leave.

Usually takes maybe 30 seconds to check out.

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[–] blazera@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I try to do self checkout whenever i can. Cashier is one of the most soul crushing jobs, no one needs to be dealing with food shoppers

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[–] SeanTurvey@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

This commercial was made at least 17 years ago. This is what we need. We have the technology. We just need the price to come down.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't mind there being a self-checkout, but for the love of everything good in this world, these companies need to stop asking 21 questions when you use one! "Do you want to apply to a credit card?", "Do you want to donate?", "Did you want a receipt emailed?", "Did you want to fill out a survey?", "How many bags did you use?", etc.

And if it's a self-checkout at Walmart, expect to have 10 available, but only 2 working and three staff overlooking them...

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Ironically, the local Walmart has been closing them all later in the day so that people must use cashier's, presumably due to increased theft etc

[–] NathanielThomas@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

At the self-checkout at the Walmart near me a little man would go around asking if we want to save on groceries by signing up for their credit card.

The fourth or fifth trip there that he did this I had to get a bit ruder until he finally grabbed the self-checkout and clicked the credit card opt-in and I had to tell him to fuck off. He acted shocked but dude I go to self-checkout to avoid human interaction, not be sold a bullshit credit card only a teenager would fall for.

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I don't mind self-checkouts, though I will admit most of those systems are utter garbage. What I hate is a worker telling you that "hey the self-checkouts are open here". If I wanted to do self-checkout I wouldn't be waiting in that line. Had some even bait saying "i'll serve you here, but then they just lead you to self-checkout". Their managers should be fired.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most self-checkouts range from mildly annoying to downright unusable. Except Home Depot. Home Depot self checkouts are wonderful.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


CBC News interviewed several people who said during recent visits to major retailers, they were frustrated to find cashiers weren't available — only self-checkout.

Valcov says he stopped shopping at his local Canadian Tire in June, following several store visits where only the self-checkouts were open and no staff members were available to help him.

VideoMining, a U.S. market research company, analyzed shoppers' checkout habits during 1.2 billion trips to more than 1,000 U.S. grocery stores in 2022.

Sharma says retailers like self-checkout because it reduces labour costs, and that customers are increasingly drawn to the machines to avoid long lines at the cash register.

Retailer Loblaw, which owns pharmacy chain Shoppers Drug Mart, says its policy is to offer customers both self-checkout and cashier options at all times.

In an email to CBC News, Loblaw offered Rayman and Winterburn an apology, and said that it has contacted their local stores to resolve the problem.


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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

If I have just a handful of items it's convenient. But one in 20 times I seem to find a way to screw it up - like trying to scan the loyalty card as an item...

Any more than 8 items I'd rather just use a cashier to scan the items for me. But places (like shoppers) don't make it easy at all.

[–] MooseGas@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's just me, but everytime I use a self checkout I end up doing something wrong and have to wait for an attendant to help me. I usually try to just skip the first few steps and just go right to the cashier.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My insistence on paying cash for in-person purchases means that I can't—and won't—shop at a store that only offers self-checkouts. I haven't come across any yet in this neck of the woods that don't have at least one cashier, but if I did, chances are good that I'd put the goods down and walk out without buying.

I do understand, however, that most people aren't willing to make that level of sacrifice just to keep the credit card companies from tracking part of their purchase history.

[–] NathanielThomas@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I genuinely don't think I've paid in cash in Canada for about 10 years now.

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[–] ricecake 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do yours not take cash at self checkout? That seems really odd to me.

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[–] gifferqqq@artemis.camp 4 points 1 year ago

I prefer self checkout if I have a few items but it can be a pain the more items you have. There isn't a lot of room in the bagging area and I have to fight with the machine freaking out over unexpected items in the bagging area 🙄

[–] TemporaryBoyfriend@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

The faces of the execs when 'shrinkage' goes up: :O

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