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no i dont trust brave. i did never understand why people would choose brave over firefox+ublockorigen
Popular tech (a la pop sci or pop psych). Brave uses the right techy sounding buzzwords to appeal to the pseudo power user.
Because chromium-based browsers are better in some regards (extensions, good folder support on android). Habit also matter 🙂
That's in your head. I cannot think of anything Firefox won't do for me. And if I came across something I needed chromium for, I would open it that one time. My privacy is worth that tiniest bit of effort.
As an independent computer consultant full time, I operate heavily through my browser for a good 60% of my work.
The ability to send tabs to my phone or desktop at will is enough for me. Firefox always.
Chromium browsers could one day be forced to adopt Google Chrome’s updates to maintain their licenses. This could mean that Chrome’s war against ad-block could spread even to Brave. That gives Google too much control over the internet for any one company.
it's involved in crypto. That's a permanent red flag for me.
Yep.
Crypto is nothing but a scam that the lowest common denominators are constantly fooled into thinking its their get rich quick method, only to be shocked when they lose all their money.
Anyone involved in crypto is a scam.
anyone pushing crypto is either a scammer or a brainless moron.
Any company or group sneakily putting crypto in their shit deserves to be burned to the ground, metaphorically speaking, and the ashes pissed in .
The red flag is that they quietly added crypto and made it opt-out by default. They have a history of shady things like this over the years, such as using ad referral links. Immediately after they get caught, they go on a marketing campaign and drown out the controversy with an influx of new users.
They basically act like it would only take a small sack of money to get them to sell all their users down the river.
the red flag for me is that they have anything to do with cryptocurrencies at all. Anything else is superfluous details.
I view anything to do with cryptocurrency as a scam. Which, I have found, is the safest bet to make.
Absolutely not. Brave is a bloated mess with feature creep and stealing advertisements. It's ran by a right wing nut job that got fired from Mozilla after publicly stating he hated gay marriage. And the greatest sin of them all: it's chromium.
No idea why people consider them private over Firefox. Literally just install uBlock Origin on Firefox and you'll have a way better experience.
Its entire business model is a protection racket wrapped in a crypto scam, so no, I don't trust it!
It also doesn't help that that it's run by the incompetent dipshit who inflicted JavaScript on the world and who later got kicked out of Mozilla for being a bad person. Furthermore, being based on Chromium instead of Firefox is an unforgivable sin by itself. Really, from my perspective there's basically nothing in its favor at all.
You mean the crypto-bro browser funded by billionaire Peter Thiel, who runs the corporate intelligence agency Palantir, which contracts with the Department of Defense to spy on Americans?
Uh, no.
According to Brave's CEO, that's not really true though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25840586
Can you provide contradictory evidence? I tried to no avail. I would stop using Brave if it turns out that Thiel is having a bigger stake in Brave than I knew so far.
Never trust a web browser sold to you with crypto incentives.
Firefox is foss, transparent and it has more than enough add-ons to make brave pointless.
but RAM and page loading speed
Oh no!
(no one cares)
Also FF has great loading times. Never noticed a problem with speed or Ram in the last decade
Firefox is the only browser I trust.
And I don’t trust them, but from all other options they seem the ones that I will accept.
"Do you trust [company name] ? -No."
No.
I'd prefer them over Chrome, jus slightly, but thank the gods for Firefox.
Definitely not. The whole "allow some ads to earn rewards" thing doesn't sit right with me. The only adblockers that do that are in bed with the ad companies. Firefox with UBlock Origin and NoScript + Strict security settings is all you need.
Brave as a whole? Brendan Eich is the next Elon Musk. Not in wealth, mind you, but dude's got the antics, is all I'm saying. (Not a good look. Look just what's going on with Reddit.) Also, a dipshit of EPIC proportions.
Brave Browser? Hell no. The whole marketing point is "oh, it's a web browser, but with ad blocker". ...installing uBlock Origin is a 2 minute job on Firefox and even on Edge. Have literally walked elderly people through the process. (It got even weirder when they talked about replacing ads with approved ones. I don't know if they still do that.)
I do draw the line on the whole BAT nonsense. "Oh, you can use cryptocurrencies to support your fave content creators? Even if they didn't opt in to the program in the first place, and you still make it seem like the donations go to them? And then say 'oh yeah the donations will eventually go to them IF they sign up for the program' oh FUCK YOU you're just deceiving fans aren't you."
My view: Brave browser is a pretty useless Chrome reskin with crypto ads attached. Brave search is a pretty new and exciting alternative to Google.
The crypto bit alone makes the browser super-sketchy. By now, I think everybody has realized crypto is a giant scam.
I can never trust them again after they got caught injection their own affiliate codes in URLs
Not really. Doing heaps of shady stuff
Firefox/Librewolf +containers should really be the end of the conversation every time a Chrome Clone is brought up. Throw FF a few bucks their way and you can add a different VPN per container. Shopping container with a USA VPN, social media container on an EU VPN, etc.
What's their incentive? A crypto token that relies on you viewing ads to gain more of said token.
They probably don't track you if you have all that crap disabled, but they definitely don't want you to have it disabled. So no, I don't trust them, it's like trusting a wolf that says it's vegan.
It could be saying the truth, but just like how they murdered Braver/Bold, that wolf is probably eating your neighbouring farm's sheep
I'm kinda ambivalent about Brave. They're a bit too into crypto for my comfort, but the search works well and the browser seems to do what it's meant to.
I don't use Brave though. I use Firefox (or a derivative) or Gnome Web. If a site doesn't work in either of those I don't use that site.
I'm just not willing to contribute the Blink monopoly.
I personally do trust Brave as a company. I don't think they're perfect by any means, and I strongly disagree with and dislike their CEO, but overall I think their browser is the best Chromium option out there, and search engine is probably 2nd best to Kagi. I don't primarily use Brave's browser, I do mainly stick to and recommend hardened Firefox (as I dislike and am strongly against Chromium and it's monopoly), but for the rare times I run into a site that needs Chromium, I use Brave. I do also primarily use Brave's search engine because I think it's just currently the best option out there for search (Kagi is excellent overall but its paid and too expensive imo), and I love that Brave Search has its own index, so no reliance on big tech like Google and Microsoft, unlike other options like StartPage and DDG. I've never bothered with Brave's VPN.
I just think overall a lot of Brave as a company's controversies have been blown out of proportion and aren't as big of a deal as people make them out to be. Their browser is open source which means it can be fully audited, they have very strong privacy protections in place out of the box, and they're even recommended by trustworthy sources like Privacy Guides. Their browser and search engine is really solid from a technical standpoint, and I don't think that should be overlooked just because of a few fuck-ups as a company which were walked back and fixed.
Not at all.
I don't particularly trust any Chromium-based browser, because that affords more power to Google and their efforts to bully the rest of the world with Chrome.
No, Brendan Eich is an asshole and shady things are still shady, even if you can turn them off.
You lost me at brave Anyone even remotely accosiating with crypto, let alone making their own and integrating it, is not to be trusted.
There are many things to list but here is by favourite, they said you can tip creators with their garbage coin Turns out some creators did not apply, you could still donate, where did the money go? Sure as shit didnt to the creator
Lol fuck no 🤣🤣🤣
As long it's open source and audited,i trust them.
Absolutely not. They have a history of one scam after another and now they're supposed to be trusted for some of the most privacy critical tools?
I don't trust non-free software
When I have to set up one of my not-so-privacy-conscius friends' system, I usually install Brave and turn most of the shit off. Not because it's the best choice out there, but because it basically doesn't have a learning curve for ex-chrome users and is still probably the best, when it comes to chromium-based browsers.