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[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm gonna be honest here: It's not.

This is like someone posting "homemade is so much better than eating out" and then they post a picture of a pickles, spam and mayo sandwich.

I mean sure, homemade can be better, but what you just posted isn't. I'm sure you like it, though. But it doesn't have general appeal at all.

Look, there's a reason most of the canvas is blank.

But you probably like the lack of activity.

So enjoy it, I guess.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All occurrences of Reddit place after the first were heavily botted. The first one was the best one IMO.

I think this speaks to a general difference between Reddit and Lemmy that we've all experienced: on Reddit, you can participate with a massive community, but your voice will likely be drowned out by everyone else plus all the bots. On Lemmy, you have to engage with a smaller community, but you can be sure your voice will be heard in that community.

With Reddit place, you probably couldn't point to the finished product and say "that pixel right there is one I placed" unless you were exceptionally lucky. With canvas, you absolutely can, but as you rightly pointed out the work itself is less impressive looking.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The first one was botted as well near the end. I know because I wrote a tool to do it in about an hour using my private bot farm I had been building for years. I never gave it to anyone else because it was sloppy and integrated with the bot creation tools I had, and that would have revealed all of the tricks I used to create and protect the bot horde. But I used it myself, and I assume I was far from the only one with the same idea.

The interesting thing is that reddit basically condoned it. They are usually pretty decent at detecting bots if you don't take measures to make them look human, but with place (at least the first time) they seemed to intentionally have that functionality disabled. I kind of assumed that they doing it specifically as a bit detection scheme, but they never cleaned house afterwards like I expected.

[–] Squids@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah - one of the great things about place was the sheer scale of the community. If you have a broad range of even pretty obscure interests, there was a chance you could find most of them on there burried away. In the previous few iterations, I must've helped like twelve different little things ranging from super well known video game murals to tiny little pixel art for obscure Japanese artists.

In the '22 place, I helped lead a team to make a tiny 15×15 thing for our favourite kinda forgotten character from a game and it was an uphill battle but it was memorable. Here? That tiny 225 pixel face is the only rep for genshin impact and I miss the fun of planning something because it's just me. Sure I could make something big (and I have expanded it to include other characters) by myself...but like, I want to make stuff for other groups and fandoms too, and I'm the only person who'll do it.

Don't get me wrong, the canvas is fun and it's not really the hoster's fault, but it's missing the collaboration part

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[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Btw, have you checked canvas recently?

I can imagine some humble pie needs to be consumed.

[–] Hypnoctopus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're missing the point entirely 😀

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The title being sarcastic?

[–] missingno@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago

Ew, crypto.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see the need to mention reddit. It's like saying my current bf is better than my ex while spying on the ex.

Have a closure. Move on.

[–] RxBrad@lemmings.world 10 points 1 year ago

The Reddit mentions right now are downright tame compared to the weekend the API changes went into effect. That was out of control.

But yes, I totally agree. Move on.

[–] ChildEater@iusearchlinux.fyi 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait theres a lemmy place?

[–] Mako_Bunny@geddit.social 24 points 1 year ago

This is a bit too forced imo

[–] Mr_1077@monero.town 23 points 1 year ago

My first thought when I saw that was "I'm home, I've found my place". Man I just love lemmy and its community

Long live Lemmy!

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

We have the blue corner we have the OSU logo, we have the German flag, and we have the crewmates. This feels complete, yes.

[–] Swyperider@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Looking at the screenshot at least, it looks like a load of computer nerds got together to respectfully collaborate instead of fighting over space like what happens on /r/place. I love it.

[–] Marxine@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Based Konqi! Best FOSS mascot alongside Krita 's Kiki!

Edit: Fixed autocorrect's mischief on Krita's name

[–] janWilejan@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Oriya’s Kiki"? Do you mean Kiki the Cyber Squirrel, mascot of Krita, designed by Tyson Tan?
Who's Oriya?

[–] apotheotic 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think "oriya" is a typo of "krita". O is right next to K, and y is next to t

[–] Marxine@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Almost, it was autocorrector changing stuff on its own and me being too sleepy to have noticed. For some reason Oriya is a word for it, but Krita isn't.

[–] Marxine@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It was dumb autocorrector moment, I did mean Krita's Kiki indeed, thanks for the heads up :')

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Remove the cringepto

[–] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When Place first happened it was such a phenomenon, I think nothing that tries to copy it will ever come close.

Even Reddit's follow-ups have been much less fun than the first one.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“even”… i think reddit’s follow ups were least likely to succeed because they were the least organic!

place was special (at first) because it was a bunch of people with no time to plan and prepare… it was humans doing human things with all the limitations and creativity that came with that

other iterations of place were bots and pre-planned “stake our claim” rather than making something interesting and different… it was kinda all just the same as the last one but with subtle “meme of the moment” tweaks

[–] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

You expressed my own thoughts in a better way than I ever could. I agree completely.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now if only it allowed you could login with KBin. :(

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

You can login with any service that can receive private messages from lemmy, which probably nothing can.

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mojo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Firipu@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ehm, look at the right side... The two things that look like a compressed jpg... No way those aren't made by bots..

[–] sophi@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

i think you can put templates on screen so its not necessarily botted

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

I love how the screenshot is away from the bronies

[–] JackOfNoTrades@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It might be if I didn't have to download a new app to access it... (At least on an android phone)

[–] JillyB 6 points 1 year ago

I just did it through my browser...

[–] Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was able to sign in through the sync app on Android. It loaded up pretty well and I placed some stuff last night. Never had to download an app. What are you using that made you need another one?

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Considering there is a pixel art image of Konqi, I'd definitely agree. There's no Konqi on the other, as far as I am aware.

[–] kala_telo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

My gentoo logo art :3

[–] Stopkilling0@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wish I could contribute but I'm on kbin

[–] tal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://old.reddit.com/r/place/comments/64zlnw/an_easy_guide_for_r_place_alternatives/

People have made a bunch of alternatives.

https://pixelcanvas.io/ looks like the most-practical to me, but some people may want the canvas constrained.