I love YouTube : memes

[–] AnotherOne@feddit.de 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, you love the creators you watch. Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder. I use newpipe, i never see ads but if i have a creator i want to support i send them money as direct as possible without middlemen (direct donations during livestreams for example). i pay the creator for their work. If google wouldn't violate my human dignity by shoving a camera up my ass 24/7 i might consider giving them money to run their servers but as long as they try to make me a product they won't see money nor data from me

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a fair point, maybe I should look into using newpipe and use what was my monthly payment as a direct donation to my favorite creators instead. Thanks for the informative reply!

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

If they have a patreon, that would be the best way short of putting the money directly in their hands.

[–] milkytoast@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah I would say block ads, and then whatever u would normally spend on premium, donate to your favorite creators

the creatora only get 55% (which isn't bad all things considered) of the ad/premium revenue. by donating directly u spend the same but they get more

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But to be fair, if YouTube themselves don't make anything then the service that hosts my content creators isn't sustainable. So just getting premium feels like the most moral option all things considered, at least for me.

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[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, you love the creators you watch.

And Youtube makes that possible. Show me another service that is as good as Youtube is? Unlimited uploads for everyone, extremely fast constant delivery network. Require no logins or accounts to access the site. 4K video etc.. etc.. All for the low price of free with ads, or pay for no adds. They every are even one of the best at paying content creators. There is a reason almost every content creator ends up having some kind of account on Youtube.

Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder.

I don't believe Google is in the business of selling data. There business is ad delivery. They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.

[–] beefcat 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google absolutely is in the business of selling user data, through their ad network. AdSense customers use that data to target ads. It’s their whole business model. Just because they aren’t being given a database with all that data doesn’t mean they aren’t paying for access to it.

Facebook operates the same way.

[–] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.

I don't think that's entirely true. They won't sell direct data, but through their ad and search systems your ads can drill down to very specific people and thus you know about them. It's still crappy. It's kinda unfair I think to outright say they don't sell your data. You data is their core money maker. It's just in a round about way. Sure maybe it doesn't bother you, but in my opinion, the collection of data is the core problem with modern technology, not even just the internet. Data is extremely powerful and valuable.

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[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If money could stop things from enshitifying, there would be very few shitty things on the planet.

If everybody on the planet subscribed to YouTube premium they would still become enshittified.

Even with 8 billion monthly subscriptions at $10 a month or more, Google would raise the prices and provide less service.

They would do whatever they have to do whatever they can do to extract the most amount of money they possibly can out of the product.

This is not just because Google is a shit company, this is because greed knows no bounds. The only way for a company to stop being enshitified is for the company from the top down to be radically opposed to enshittification.

Only a good King can stop enshittification.

There are no good Kings in Google.

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

I know. Late stage capitalism is much more of a negative than a positive.

But I did say slow enshitification. Slow =/= Stop.

Enshitification:

[–] stappern@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

0 hoops to get rid of ads.

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yea, just install an extension, it's like four clicks

[–] stappern@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if you sync your stuff with Firefox Sync or Google it literally pulls it back automatically when you first login.

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really, every youtuber complains that ad revenue isn't great. If you want to support a content creator, drop a few coins their way

[–] Ser_Salty@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

If you give them a dollar that's probably more than they would make from your ad revenue in like 2 years

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[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Sorry, but I'll pay for it when they stop spying on everything I do. And worse, is that they make it intentionally bad when you turn off suggestions.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

sounds like propaganda

[–] Eavolution@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm still annoyed at the removal of google play music. I want to just buy tracks or albums, instead of a subscription, and just own a flac/mp3/music file I can do anything with.

I rip cds now, and feel 0 guilt for that even though its illegal here because quite frankly the artists are getting more money this way.

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[–] CinnamonTheCat 13 points 1 year ago

I'm no bootlicker

[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago

Let them sell my data that they're tracking, it should cover the costs.

[–] MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You've found quite the hornets nest, it seems.

I pay for premium because YouTube does video delivery better than anyone else in the world, and it's not free for them to provide. Lots of things to hate about YouTube/Alphabet, but theft is a corrupt way of expressing discontentment.

Also, if I pay for premium, then content creators get paid, and I don't have to shell out for merch to not feel like a terrible person.

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[–] randomguy2323@lemmy.kevitprojects.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What hoops? It just a few taps and voila you have YouTube free of ads.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

woala

Is this a cross between a wallaby and a koala?

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[–] Teritz@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Just use ReVanced

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I'd rather click two buttons than give them my card information and send them money, but ok.

[–] beefcat 10 points 1 year ago

Creators also earn way more from Premium views than ad views.

I have no problem with services being ad-supported, and I also have no problem with them charging for a premium ad-free option.

[–] awwsom 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yes it does make profit. it's revenue is over 31 billion dollars if it was not making profit after having this much revenue. Google will just delete it.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, YouTube is profitable for Google. In 2022, YouTube generated an estimated $29.2 billion in revenue, and its parent company, Alphabet, reported that YouTube contributed roughly 10% to all Google revenue. YouTube's primary revenue streams are advertising and subscription services. In 2022, advertising accounted for about 85% of YouTube's revenue, while subscription services accounted for about 15%.

YouTube's advertising revenue comes from a variety of sources, including:

Display ads: These are static or animated ads that appear before, during, or after videos.
Video ads: These are longer ads that play before, during, or after videos.
TrueView ads: These are skippable ads that appear before videos.
Bumper ads: These are 6-second unskippable ads that appear before videos.
Sponsored videos: These are videos that are created by advertisers and promoted on YouTube.

YouTube's subscription services include:

YouTube Premium: This service offers ad-free viewing, background playback, and access to YouTube Originals.
YouTube Music Premium: This service offers ad-free music listening, background playback, and access to YouTube Music Originals.

YouTube's profitability is due to a number of factors, including:

Its large user base: YouTube has over 2 billion active users per month.
Its high engagement: YouTube users watch an average of 1 hour and 15 minutes of video per day.
Its targeted advertising: YouTube's advertising platform allows advertisers to target their ads to specific demographics and interests.

While YouTube is profitable, it is not as profitable as some other online platforms. For example, Facebook's advertising revenue is about 98% of its total revenue. This is because YouTube shares a portion of its advertising revenue with content creators. However, YouTube's profitability is still significant, and it is a major source of revenue for Google.

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[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

ublock origin on my PC works amazing. I forget yt has ads most of the time. If web drm becomes a thing I'll hopefully have a pinhole in front of my traffic by then

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[–] DekkerNSFW@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Enshittification is not a thing that will be slowed if only we just pay Google more. It's a well-honed business strategy. Nobody in their right mind would stop their plans just because people start paying them more, voluntarily.

[–] jabib 9 points 1 year ago

K.

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ReVanced is the way.

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ReVanced resurrected Sync for Reddit for me, maybe I should check out what ReVanced does for YouTube.

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[–] portside@monyet.cc 5 points 1 year ago

ReVanced gang checking in

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Youtube without ads + bonus functionalities

Youtube Music

Both are FOSS btw

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[–] stappern@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

Google shouldn't exist

[–] skycat 7 points 1 year ago

I will never pay or use proprietary user subjugating software/ services

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your ignorance is so cute! I could just ~~punch~~ pinch those cheeks!

What would you say to someone with premium that still uses revanced because it's a better client? Probably nothing because there's no script for that.

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I used revanced on sync for Reddit to keep it alive past it's death date, though I'm much more engaged with Lemmy since Sync released for it too.

What makes the revanced version of YouTube better to you? Maybe I should check it out.

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[–] formContainer@feddit.ch 6 points 1 year ago

I hate Ggle as a corporation, but LOVE YouTube. With that being said, FreeTube, NewPipe, and InnerTunes will be used by me until YouTube/Ggle goes bankrupt. After they replaced G**gle Play Music with YouTube music I want them to burn a fiery death.

[–] Mandy 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Installing ublock origins and sponsorblock is not jumping through hoops

And Google.with its basically infinite money should name it worthwhile to be paid for. But YouTube premium is garbage

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