I absolutely dislike βrepost botsβ. I prefer communication with real people.
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I guess we all do, but as of now, we have to choose between lack of content or some bot content
I suppose it depends on how you define content. Usually when people post it includes some discussion. Those types of posts get drowned in the bot posts however.
Usually when people post it includes some discussion.
Indeed, but as of now, I feel we are lacking a bit of a userbase to have enough content at all times. I know the part about everyone posting as much as they can, but I guess we still need bots for a bit
Lemmy, like Reddit, operates like a link aggregator, so news article spam sorted by type into sublemmy's is sort of its "natural state". IMO there's not really anything wrong with it, because it's a good way to get conversations started.
I don't really like the lemmit.online bot that just reposts "archive" posts from Reddit.
I donβt really like the lemmit.online bot that just reposts βarchiveβ posts from Reddit.
Yeah, that was just depressing - we've moved on and it felt like it was trying to drag us back again.
My main issue is title formatting. I don't dislike the TIL bot, but I do dislike the long title being cut off in my app.
As long as they mark the accounts as a bot account it doesn't bother me, if it gets too much I can just turn on the don't show bot accounts check.
Imo we need to be able to differentiate between bot posts and comments. Posts can often be spamy, but comments are almost always useful.
I used to run a news bot on my profile for my community, but some people PM'd me to mark my profile as bot. I also personally use my account so I don't want my other post/comments to be seen as bot activity; and my instance did not permit creation of a second account for the bot only, what should I do to keep the bot running without having my profile marked as bot?
I feel like it will be increasingly used for propaganda, not discussion. By cherry picking articles, these news accounts will try to shape public opinion.
Hopefully a lot of the bots are a stop-gap measure while the user base develops.
I don't mind the news, I absolutely hate the bots.
I said in another comment before, there's an "AITA" bot reposting everything from Reddit, but, who are we supposed to answer if it's a bot that's asking? It doesn't make any sense...
If there is no engagement (or at least something that's educational or informational), then what's the point?
If it was a "TIL" bot I'd probably have a harder time hating on it, but still.
As long as it's not "spammy" and there's actual engagement or discussion on the posts I don't see an issue. But if the community being posted to isn't engaging with the posts, or it's crowding out the more interesting posts, yeah that's not great and shouldn't be allowed.
I am a human who posts a lot of news. It's not mainstream news though and it's all been read and selected by me.
Most of it is to a small niche news sub and gets little engagement yet - the 90-9-1 rule applies and we don't have the numbers yet.
If anyone discusses it with me I'm over the moon!
There's a voting system. That should give you an idea of whether they're considered good or bad and of their visibility in general.
I hate it. Some communities just fill up my feed with links to news articles with zero (or zero quality) comments. I either unsubscribe from these communities, or block the poster. In some cases they are so frequent, and with images that are effectively advertising. That and the zero comments, they just remind me of Reddit ads. I don't think you can hope to build a community by drowning out any discussion with a flood of posts from news sites. If you're the mod of a community with so little interaction, then you should be curating content and adding comments yourself.
It really annoys me, especially as there seems to be at least two lemmy instances that are 99% just a bot reposting everything from reddit.. Really wish I could block whole instances
On kbin you can
you can't do that on lemmy? TIL
I'm generally opposed to spambots and unnecessary bots.
If these bots are just, like, CNN wrote a bot to post every CNN article to a news community, that's annoying.
But as long as the bots aren't spammers / advertisers / just annoying as shit, it seems like they're doing something pretty useful without causing any harm. Not opposed to it.
Oh, and the other problem on reddit ends up being that these bots farm karma to make themselves look more legitimate, as though they're people. That's probably something we should keep an eye on long-term.
News articles are fine, but I'm not as thrilled with the Reddit reposting bots.
I used to get most of my news from Reddit, now that I donβt use Reddit I get them from here. I post pretty frequently news articles on my countryβs community and think that they are a good source for a discussion.
I get news from the fediverse so I'm very happy with others posting news.
I don't like repost bots though because they tend to be programmed to let non-fedizens control the agenda. Eg scraping what the people of Reddit upvoted.
is more than fine, is content, what we need, and Manny communities work like that, forbidding to add blablablaba in the text of a post.
At the end of the day I'd argue that the majority of people want a "Reddit like" experience, with dozens or posts with heaps of engagement. I'm happy to have news / repost bots if the end result is a more engaging comment thread / discussion.
When looking at older Reddit posts, I never enjoyed the comments where the discussion was OP focused. I'm keen to have them phrase the original question / link and then step back and let the discussion naturally form
I am a mod of !t_mobile@lemmy.ml and do a decent amount of article posting. Once the community has some organic traffic i will slow down or totally stop doing it. The community has 109 subs but only once in a while is there ever a comment and there may be one post that i didnt make.
Bots that repost suck and the trend needs to stop
I don't mind it, as long as they're keeping it relevant to the communities they're posting in. There's a couple I've noticed that don't seem to respect the intent of the communities too much, but most of the bots I've seen seem to be pretty well-curated so far.
As the service grows, I have noticed more and more people and bots popping up, only posting links to a news article and thatβs that. Usually there is no post, no summary and nothing from the OP but the link.
I am 100% fine with this.
Not crazy about bots reposting shit from Reddit though.
I'd rather it be people than bots. If it's someone posting an article of something they're interested in, I don't necessarily need an initial comment from them, but if I post one, it's be nice to get a response back from OP.
Especially if it's something non-US I like learning how things work on other parts if the world. I didn't really want a US take on world events when I could get it from someone there.
Sounds good to me but also i can get my news from google news so I hope the bot is posting non-mainstream stuff. reddit felt like democrat astroturfing. like too much majory taylor greene. I like to laugh at em too but it just felt.... bought out. HA. bot out. bought out.
Google news is actually fantastic. I picked it up when Reddit dropped and itβs been a great time killer. Encouraged me to sub to a news site and read articles and less comments. Kbin/lemmy have been like a nicotine patch to get off Reddit.
I don't mind about people only posting news articles, so long as they actively participate to the discussion in the comments.
For bots as long as they identify themselves as bots then at least I can block them if they feel too spammy for me.
Iβd prefer we just not have bots in the fediverse but thatβs probably impossible
It would be up to moderators of individual communities to proactively ban bots. It's not impossible, but it is unlikely that every community will have that level of moderation.