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What will be banned? Maybe we will see unbans?

I play only Explorer, so I hope for [[Karn, the Great Creator]] ban. Without wishboard MonoG will need to have answers in maindeck, so [[Storm the Festival]] won't be as consistent as now. Midrange deck, that have combo-finisher ( with [[Pestilent Cauldron]] ) and can loop [[The Stone Brain]], seems too strong right now.

About unbans. I don't know about 2 cards:

  • [[Nexus of Fate]]
  • [[Leyline of Abundance]]

Will they break current Pioneer? The rest can't be unbanned.

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[–] andrew@mtgzone.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My prediction (sadly) is no changes to any format.

I mostly follow Legacy and Modern and don’t think Legacy needs anything really. Modern, though, feels really unfun for me and has since MH2 really 😞 I’d personally love to see the evoke elementals eat bans, among others too as I just feel a lot of those designed-for-Modern cards were a mistake.

I’d also love for [[Splinter Twin]] and [[Birthing Pod]] to come back, admittedly because I love those cards and think they’d be really fun/fine given how Modern has changed.

Not sure how I feel about Bowmasters and The One Ring, I’d love to hear how others feel about these two. The One Ring feels way too pushed and like it creates a subgame as soon as it hits the board, quickly snowballing. I can’t see it eating a ban on Monday, particularly given LTR is still actively being sold, but I think it does have a target on its back.

[–] Evu@mtgzone.com 4 points 1 year ago

I don't play any formats where it's legal, but from videos I've watched, The One Ring seems to run away with games and I think an eventual ban is inevitable. As you say, though, it won't happen now because the set is too new and they have too much money they still need to make off it.

When you think about it -- what could be more flavorful than The One Ring being so powerful that it has to be banned? Arguably a great success by the design team.

[–] Lumun@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

I hope Karn gets banned in both Pioneer and modern.

I hope The One Ring gets banned in modern. But I think that is really unlikely to happen.

[–] calvinball@mtgzone.com 4 points 1 year ago

Nexus of fate can absolutely not come off of the ban list, it's a miserable card now as much as it was back then. Leyline of abundance is also not really unbannable I think. The Crew3 podcast did a nice rundown on which cards they'd like to see banned in explorer/pioneer, and which cards they think can be unbanned. I'm personally hoping for a Karn and Fable ban in pioneer and explorer.