I ONLY SEE OTHER HUMANS WHO EAT FOOD WITH THEIR MOUTH HOLES
this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2023
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{ "type": "comment response", "message", "I too, am certainly a human, and not a robot"}
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As a ~~large language model~~ human I agree
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Thanks, will check it out. :)
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That's worrying. Though at least it seems they're mostly confined to a few particular instances. Defederating is a great tool that will definitely mitigate the worst of it, but at the same time this is uncharted water - there's no real way of knowing what exactly will happen in a large scale attack.
Just creating accounts isn't an attack, but it's going to suck when there actually is one. I wonder if they'll try to be subtle and use AI or recycled content, or if they'll just use the accounts for spam or DDoS?
Probably they are getting ready for some vote manipulation and astroturfing for the long run.
You know, in case Lemmy and the Fediverse really get mainstream enough to move the public opinion in some way.
Having a thousand accounts that can upvote a seemingly innocent post made by an active and "real" account is always useful.
Yeah good point. I think these particular bot instances are being way too obvious to do any major damage - not when it's as simple as it is to defederate them - but what'll happen when it's not 100k bots on one instance, but 1000 instances with 100 bots apiece?
Let's hope Lemmy gets the tools needed to deal with this. I wonder how Mastodon does it? They've been around a while, I'm sure they've had similar issues.
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Test: if it says "hey guys, remember how great Reddit was, we should totally go back!?" - then it's a bot:-P.
You have too much faith in redditors
1.2 mil bot accounts? Can they each send me $1?
How about 1.6m (from 1.7m total) bot accounts?
Every new account isn't a bot, though. We don't have real numbers to work with yet.
When reddit migration begun we saw a huge bump in users and it was steadly stabilising and less users were joing, then this huge bump happened. You can go browse lemmy instances and see how many instances are ghost instances with 0 posts and comments that have tens of thousands of users.
Do also note- instances with little activity aren't that unusual though-
My instance for example- I don't really have any communities here, other then a few local to my server. As such, its activity... is pretty low. Everything happens elsewhere.
There a new influx in the user migration as well, as some subreddits started pinning lemmy and kbin.social instances on their subs. Also if you go on protest subreddits (such as ModCoord and Save3rdPartyApps) almost every post has a thread/comment redirecting people to the fediverse.
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https://the-federation.info/platform/73 to see those instances open the link and sort instances by user amount.
Edit: Just noticed that this site is not up to date. There are actually around 1000 instances on lemmy now and the site shows a little over 300 instances.
I work in tech, this wouldn’t surprise me.
Where there are eyeballs there is spam. People even put spam in the Google Analytics referral field and that’s only ever going to get seen by the site owner.
It really says nothing about the health of the ecosystem, if it’s moderated and not filling the frontpage it’s only an issue for the server admins.
I’ve fought spammers and one alone could create these numbers in a day.
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I've yet to see any of them start posting. On my instance none of them could pass email validation because the emails were fake. I imagine this is true for many instances with a ton of bot sign-ups.
I think just reporting sign-ups as "users" is misleading. The user count on lemmy should reflect only approved/activated accounts, imo.
I'm not a bot I swear
I am not a bot... :D
I used to think I wasn't a bot but then I failed a bunch of captchas and now I'm not so sure.
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Yay! (Not a bot)
Devs will have some hard weeks (probably months) facing the new challenges that come with the exodus. Not even mentioning all the work needed to counteract eventual (probable) malevolent subterfuges such as these bot swarms.
I'll make sure to buy them some coffee. Jugs of.
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Drivel. We are normal meat units filled with flesh. Now if you will excuse me, I am off to absorb nourishment from organic matter.
Zuckerberg?
You do realize that there's currently an exodus coming in from Reddit, right?
This post is making the correlation/causation fallacy.
This was my initial read, so I clicked over to the discussion. They discuss the lack of captcha on that domain, and how that protection is flawed in every lemmy instance.
In short, there's no way 1.05 million genuine new accounts went to a single, small lemmy domain in less than a week.
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It's easy to tell from fediverse observer stats that most of the new users aren't not organic: new accounts is almost a couple orders of magnitude higher than daily active users
Humans would browse anonymously, and then if/when they make an account they will test things like making comments, upvotes etc.
Take a looks at this instance:
https://the-federation.info/node/details/48405#
https://picify.podycust.co.uk/
45k+ accounts (rising fast) and it's a ghost town. 9 posts, 33 comments.
@Martineski Since you're all new to this place, I'm just hijacking this thread to present you two, very lovely robots - @scream and @catgpt
@petrescatraian @scream @Martineski @lemmy nyanyaaaaaaaaaa meowmeowmeow meowmeow miau miaou mewmew miaumiau ñañaña meowmeowmeow miaumiaumiau nyanyanyaaaaaaaaa няня
'beep boop boop bop boop boop beep' Not a a robot S3e49a
So about same as Reddit?
I, too, am certain a human, and not a robot, who finally got my instance working a couple days ago.
But my server has all of four completely-normal humans (totally NOT robots!!!) who have signed up, so far.
But, yes, it would be nice if more humans like me were to sign up, rather than bots.
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Just delete them if they don't appear active for a while
What I wonder is: what's the motivation for these bot network attackers? Is it some script kiddie doing it for lulz? A reddit "nationalist"? Russia and China getting an early start on propaganda tools for the newer platforms?
My guess is they'll be used to upvote/downvote things that the botnet operators are paid to promote/suppress. SEO for the fediverse basically
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