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The main cloud services don't even work natively (GoogleDrive, OneDrive, iCloud) basically the only mainstream choice is Dropbox. I tried to use Google Drive in Mint, and it's a pain to get it to work, and usually it stops working after computer restarts.

Someone has a recommendation about how to handle these services?

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[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

If you want cloud storage I'd recommend Nextcloud as a service (I'm not affiliated with them, just a customer)

Works like a charm. You can even install plugins. Also, there are other companies that provide hosting so there is no vendor-lock-in.

[–] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 26 points 1 year ago

You can use rclone

[–] bceuhwps@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Rclone is awesome. Mega and PCloud got native clients that works great. Nextcloud is an alternative.

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Google drive integrates simply into the file manager on Gnome for cloud storage. It doesn't do offline file-sync between devices, however.

The Microsoft and Apple products don't support Linux because... Microsoft and Apple.

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[–] LinusWorks4Mo@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

rclone for cloud backup

[–] besbin@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most people I know who use Linux wouldn't trust Cloud services cause that's just storing your stuff on somebody else machine. You can self hosted service like Next cloud on a raspberry pi or just get comfortable with networking enough to setup VPN and ssh into your home computer from the net to get your stuff.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

A huge part of disaster recovery is storing things in separate geographic locations. That's not easily don't with self hosting. If all my stuff is on a file server at my house and my house burns down then I've lost all my files.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While this is true, you can have a remote backup service that isn't the type of cloud storage the OP seems to want (that is, which isn't designed for editing individual files on the fly on the remote server, or synchronizing between devices). They're similar, but not the same.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I'm mostly talking about the "somebody else's computer" part in the comment I replied to. I don't think it's very feasible. I think self hosting stuff from home is awesome and think it's a culture more folks should check out, but to really have a proper backup of files they need to be stored in multiple different physical locations and that's not something that's cost effective for most folks. What you're talking about is still "someone else's computer" so not different from the comment above.

[–] argv_minus_one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A hard drive in a bank vault is separated enough that nothing short of a nuke will destroy every copy of your data at the same time.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have fun going to the bank every time you want to sync.

[–] argv_minus_one 1 points 1 year ago

Multiple backup drives. Rotate every week or two. It's not hard.

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[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well the thing is, I’m still not comfortable in opening up an attack surface like that. I would much rather pay for someone else to do that. Preferably someone who really knows what they are doing and keeps an eye on the constantly evolving security environment. There’s a bunch of other stuff happening in my life, so finding the time to play server admin isn’t that easy right now.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are many professional Nextcloud holsters, for example: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

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[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

If you need the online storage (or whatever self hosted service) just for yourself (and maybe some few people), it's very simple to set up a Wireguard instance. My server doesn't even show open ports to the outside world, but with Wireguard I can access my git, wiki, etc in my home LAN.
I haven't really tried any of the second tier Solutions like Tailscale. But when you have more users or a more complex environment, that could help.

Still, sharing stuff with "outsiders" would still be tricky, I guess - at least I haven't found a solution...

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Uh what? Lots of Linux users also use cloud services.

Pretty easy to use something like Cryptomator with almost any service and maintain privacy.

Self hosting can be great; it can also be a pain.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Syncthing is pretty good. I've got a raspberry pi running it on my local network with an old usb hard drive I had kicking around and it works great

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 6 points 1 year ago

Mega and syncthing work perfectly fine for me

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seafile works well on linux

[–] bfly75@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed. Quicker and more stable than Next loud or OneDrive for me.

[–] kelvinjps 5 points 1 year ago

the file manager integration with gnome and google drive worked well for me.

[–] fox@lemmy.fakecake.org 5 points 1 year ago

Syncthing has never failed me.

[–] IncidentalIncidence@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Because it's a disproportionate amount of effort to natively support an extra OS (particularly one as fragmented as Linux), especially one with such a small userbase that largely isn't interested in using proprietary cloud services in the first place because of data privacy and security concerns.

Obviously not all Linux users are super worried about that stuff (I mean, I use Linux and have a google pixel), but on average the Linux userbase is way way more aware of that stuff than most users who just want their photos backed up without having to worry about it.

[–] argv_minus_one 5 points 1 year ago

My recommendation is to not use them, for privacy reasons.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Mega (Mega Upload) ain't bad, 30gb free. Worth a look!

I used them all, so I get plenty of cloud storage for free

[–] Justin@apollo.town 4 points 1 year ago

Don't. Use Nextcloud.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Use pCloud.

[–] tegimaster@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also say that pCloud is possibly the best option. Simple install, free storage, and a cheap lifetime purchase for more storage. My only complaint is that they don't support aarch64 yet, but I don't need think there's really anyone that does yet so I'm living with offline backups.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too many horror stories with pDrive about people getting locked out and never seeing their data again, and their terms lay it out that they own what you upload not you. That scared me away from pDrive.

I moved to kDrive and it has done everything I need so far. It's a little slow to transfer if you are in the US since their servers are in the EU, but that's a minor complaint and only a hurdle I had to worry about once during initial sync... It's hardly noticeable with everyday changed to individual files.

The Google drive integrations in dolphin / KDE work well enough but it doesn't have an option to "sync" folders in a local drive like the windows client did, and that was my main use case. Same with dropbox, you get one sync folder on your main OS drive. I have 8 storage drives in my computer and I have more data that needs synced and backed up than will fit on my main OS drive.

[–] tegimaster@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

While I've never had a problem in my 5 years of use, I only really used it as an automatic phone backup that my laptop could then pull the files in and work with. Not a lot of use, or devices. I don't doubt that pCloud has their privacy issues, and I don't doubt the horror stories. Like I said I'm not using my account anymore, and would love to try Nextcloud if I had the time to figure it out and the money to buy the hardware to do it with.

[–] floppy@rabbitea.rs 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a Backblaze B2 account I use for other things, I recently created a new bucket on it and attached it as a drive using s3fs. Works fine as far as I can tell (I've not used it much - prefer to keep things locally and just back them up off-site, which is actually what I have my B2 account for), so you certainly can do this with an S3 (AWS) compatible service.

[–] mackwinston@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Backblaze B2 buckets too, just use a cron job to sync stuff once a day (using it for backups). It's not expensive and it just seems to keep on working. I also like their disc reliability reports they send out.

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[–] potemkinhr@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chiming in, is there a solid OneDrive client for linux that just works? No collaboration stuff needed for it or other fluff, just simple file sync. I pay for OneDrive family and would be nice to be able to sync files with other ecosystems (Synology, Windows, Android).

[–] talizorah@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s a commercial Linux client I was using called Insync and it was perfect. Only stopped using it because I switched away from Linux

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[–] ryan659@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use this, it's great and does seem to do automatic sync too.

https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive

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[–] charje@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Has anyone tried cryptpad.fr. I'm considering it, but I have yet to try it.

[–] buwho@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

i have multiple google drives synced right into my file manager...like i just click it, it mounts it, and drag stuff in and out as if it were local...i'm on debian with gnome. dropbox works the same way. obviously icloud and onedrive may be more difficult, but i'm pretty sure there is something formsyncing up onedrive, but i choose to disable one drive on all my windows devices.

[–] zhou@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Google Drive with InSync. It's not free, but it's a good piece of software I've been using for years and it does everything I need.

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

If only they would listen to the hundreds of requests for a flatpak…

I use it too and have for years.

[–] MangoKangaroo 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use my own NAS along with syncthing to backup and sync stuff across my phone, laptop, and desktop. Before that I was using mega.nz with its native Linux client, which worked fine sans a weird issue where it'd repeatedly transfer the same file forever.

Way back I also saw a paid 3rd party Linux-native app that supposedly works with all the major personal cloud carriers, though I never ended up using it and have long since forgotten what it's even called.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Tresorit has a Linux client.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't understand those questions. Google Drive is webdav to the best of my knowledge. Anyway, it works out of the with Gnome/Ubuntu. When you connect a Google account, a drive icon appears. Doesn't get more "native".

I get the problem that most vendors don't have an app for Linux, so some functionality is lacking compared to what you may be used to. And cross-platform anything can be a problem, i.e if you really need Linux Desktop + Android + Windows + Apple stuff. (I do and learned to use web-based applications for work.)

What do you really expect from a "Personal Cloud Storage"? not a clearly defined term.

Seafile (needs a paid server as the backend) works nice for syncing files. Google Drives works as network drive. There are tons of backup solutions that work with tons of storage backends (aka professional cloud storage).

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Because Linux is not a platform moneymaking capitalists choose to develop their apps for?

You have Nextcloud for all distros, Flatpak, Appimage. You have Syncthing which doesnt exist on iOS.

[–] thepiguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I use Google cloud with nautilus, and before that I used google-drive-ocamlfuse on my Chromebook with custom firmware. All this just so I don't have to use their stupid website.

[–] NaoPb 2 points 1 year ago

I am currently using InSync on 64-bit devices and Overgrive on 32-bit devices. Overgrive works just fine on 64-bit devices tol but Insync is slightly more userfriendly.

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I switched to linux (POP OS) as daily driver recently. Using selfhosted nextcloud and had 0 issues installing client and syncing. Didnt try google and other big guys yet

[–] Vega@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Try nextcloud

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