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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by nof4n@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
 

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[–] authed@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How can a privacy-focused search engine block Tor? You probably should remove those.

[–] nof4n@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should have specify, that they don't block only tor. They block malicious traffic.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Tor traffic is not necessarily vicious traffic...

[–] nof4n@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

CloudFlare: 94 Percent of Tor Traffic Is Malicious

[–] beefcat@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

If 94% of traffic from a given source is malicious, and I don't have a good way of differentiating the 6% that is good, I might just end up blocking 100% to keep my site stable.

Just another example of bad actors making it so we can't have nice things.

[–] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn’t brave have some scandals. Idk that’s when I stopped using it

[–] beefcat@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their CEO donates money to anti-LGBT causes.

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

searx and searxng are not search engines, and searx is more private (searxng collects info from users, which searx never wanted to). AFAIK duckduckgo is neither a search engine on its own, it uses blink...

[–] nof4n@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To tell the truth, only yacy and sightnet have own index(database). Others are meta-search engines. They work like proxy. It's called meta search. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasearch_engine)

[–] magmaus3@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago

iirc Mojeek also has it's own database

[–] 0xCAFE@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mojeek has it's own index. DuckDuckGo, Qwant and Brave have a partial index mixed with meta search results.

[–] citytree@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why is Ecosia on the list?

Quoting from tosdr.org:

  • This service can view your browser history
  • This service may collect, use, and share location data
  • This service allows tracking via third-party cookies for purposes including targeted advertising
  • This service tracks which web page referred you to it
  • Your personal data is given to third parties

Doesn't look privacy-respecting.

[–] TheElectroness@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish more of them would support duckduckgo's bang system, brave seems to, but that's about it. Idealogically I find the idea of using brave troublesome because of a) Eich's transphobia, and b) the cryptobro factor (although I don't think the search page has an embedded miner, at least not from the cursory glance I took

[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Firefox supports bangs natively, you can also change or add your own shortcuts.

[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe add ecosia.org to the list, definitely a privacy focused search engine.

[–] Mikelius 1 points 1 year ago

Man I loved duckduckgo until they stopped working with DarkReader about a month ago. So now every time I do a search, I'm blinded by a large white screen lol. Even setting their dark theme option doesn't persist between sessions (for me) so I had to move on... Brave was what I went to but I'm not enjoying it too much. Thanks for this list, it gives me some other options to look into if I end up not liking Leta 👀

[–] Gargari@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Brave seems to work for me

[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would remove Qwant from this list, because they share your data with Bing, their privacy policy have contradicting statements and include:

Qwant may transfer to this partner the following pseudonymous data related to your query:
– The keywords of the search;
– Information about the browser you are using (the User Agent);
– The first three bytes of your IP address;
– The approximate geographical area from which the search originated, at the level of a region or city;
– The salt hash generated from your IP address, your User Agent and a salt that changes at the latest every 3 months;
– A random token generated by Qwant.

..Qwant may also collect and transfer to this partner your full IP address.
This processing is in the legitimate interest of Microsoft Ireland Operations Limited (article 6.1.f) to secure and make its services more reliable.

This data is transferred to this partner within the European Union, and may be retained in accordance with Bing’s Privacy Policy for a maximum period of 18 months.

Please, also review this if you plan to use qwant:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant#Controversies

[–] bernard@lemmy.peoplever.se 1 points 9 months ago

As others have stated, you are mixing search engines with metasearch engines here. If you employ browser isolation and obscure your IP address, you can be anonymous with any engine.

Yacy has potential, and I run an instance. It relies on us operators to index sites. You will find results to be incomplete in many areas, but it can be great for researching controversial topics. When I want uncensored and not manipulated results, I also use Yandex.com and Brave.

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