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Everyone calling out Denuvo for being a laggy mess, rejoice! Denuvo is being hurt bad the bad PR enough to launch a full on propaganda war. One such weapon in their arsenal: Giving "trusted" outlets access to both the unDRM and the DRM copies of the game.

Now for anyone who knows game's journalism, you do not bite the hand that feeds you. Your income revolves around being one of the first to the punch when it comes to a review and the only way to be first is to ensure studios like you enough to give you early access copies.

Does anyone here think these outlets are going to say that Denuvo is slow? Not if they ever want that kind of access again! "Trusted" is right. "Trusted" to be in Denuvo's pocket.

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[–] nicman24@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hard no for me. it is retarded for a product you buy to dictate how you use it

[–] azerial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try being a e release engineer and having to use it. It's awful. You have to configure your nodes to connect to their servers and then wait for the "magic". Quite often it would time out and this was for a mega video game studio. Denovo is trash.

[–] nicman24@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I still remember Sony rootkiting my PC and fucking up DVD play back

[–] Nobilmantis@feddit.it 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is there a way to tell if a game is using this crap?

EDIT 3: Another auto-updated list of games to avoid that use Denuvo

EDIT: found this list, will leave it here in case someone needs it. (REPORTED TO BE OUTDATED)

EDIT 2: also as they pointed out in the comments (for Steam users) this list is more updated, and if you follow it, it shows you if a game uses denuvo or not when you are browsing a game's store page.

[–] Sharmat 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For steam, there is also this curator that marks it.

[–] Nobilmantis@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's cool but you can't search through it and the way the list is displayed makes it so there is no game title in text so Ctrl+F isn't possible either. Am I missing something?

[–] Sharmat 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you're not. It's for whenever you're browsing games on steam, like the discovery queue or when there's a big sale, it will show up before the description if it has, like this.

[–] Nobilmantis@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

Ohhh okay very interesting, thank you. I will add the list to my followed as well.

[–] Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago
[–] resketreke@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think that list is complete. Dead Space does have Denuvo, even though it doesn't say so on its Steam page. There a re probably more.

[–] worfamerryman 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Gamer 1: Dude, if you preorder the collectors digital bundle, you get Denuvo+ for free.

Gamer 2: you know I preorder everything, but it doesn’t matter. I have denuvo ultra+. That way I have denuvo on games that do not normally have it.

Ad: A nerd walks up to his waifu pillow and asks, “you want the D don’t you?” Then you hear him speaking to himself in a high pitch voice pretending to be the waifu, “Please Senpai, I NEED the D right now!” Then he put a denuvo patch on the pillow.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comment reads like a deconstructionist modern art piece.

[–] Nobilmantis@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

lmfao spit my tea

[–] Sebastrion@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if I should upvote because I laugh or downvote because I don't get it and it seems to make no sense.

[–] sheepishly@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

Saw a propaganda piece like that a few days ago on Ars Technica. The comments there were pretty much the same as here, "Ah yes, the classic non-answer of saying BS until the person forgets what they asked", in regards to them ignoring the many games' sudden CPU spikes and frame drops caused by denuvo

[–] Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Hopefully they leak the denuvoless exe

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Getting in the way of even launching the game is pretty much the biggest performance hit a game can play. So unless they start testing that aspect of ensuring people don't run into issues of expired licenses when playing offline or running into activation limitations doing something like switching proton versions the testing is flawed from the get go and obviously biased.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I honestly don't even care. Denuvo is still cancer and I'm not gonna pay for games with that crap. Even if denuvo would make the game run 10% better.

Denuvo is being hurt bad the bad PR enough to launch a full on propaganda war.

Uh...they've been doing this since Dragon Age Inquisition. Hardly anything new, or a sign that they're "hurting".

[–] Richterman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a liberterin, and it's prime time the tech industry got the hammer. We have no consumer protections and since most are sold globally, its a complete waste of time to boycott, ubisoft is still around. Prime time for some consumer protections and major regulation. For starters, after 5 years, complete source code with engine and editor(everything needed to build the game or the software, doesn't have to be a game, and modify it) should be released. gradiuty for lifetime artwork be screwed And drm or anything similiar should be completly outlawed along with software licenses. YOU BUY IT YOU OWN IT, WHICH MEANS YOU GOT SOURCE CODE ACCESS if they can't make a profit off that, then their product was garbage. Most games are sold as in an early alpha state, lets make them go bust

[–] Shere_Khan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like your getting mad about something that hasn't happened yet. Sure a few "journalists" will make fluff pieces, but there are plenty of tech reviewers I trust to actually put that shit to the test.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only game journalist I trust is James Stephanie Sterling and Denuvo sure as shit isn't sending them a copy